'Firefly' TV movies?
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UPDATED: Thursday, April 15, 2010 18:28
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I'd watch, whatever form. I'd subscribe to a cable service just to watch.
Not clear on the subject of Ret-con. Never heard of it. The definition " retroactive continuity" doesn't help either. Somebody 'splain? In small, simple words, with examples, like Firefly/Serenity related, please? Thank you.
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Continuity refers to the story itself and what's canon, so retroactive continuity is when the creator (and/or writers, if there's multiple people on a project) go back and fix something in a storyline.
This happens four ways: explaining what REALLY happened that we didn't see the first time, declaring that the event in question didn't happen, rebooting the franchise, or by unintentionally forgetting what had already happened in a complicated story and writing something different. The last one often prompts another ret-con when they realize the mistake. Fans usually let them know.
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Actually I didn't know what canon meant in this context so thanks. And I agree with you on the movie front. I wouldn't want to disregard what happened in it, I loved it. Sure beloved characters died, but that's part of what made it so powerful. It is a great film in my books, and it was what introduced me to the series. I missed the shows all too brief run so it was the movie that actually pulled me in. I've obviously gone back and eaten up the series, watching the episodes multiple times, wishing there was more.
At any rate I think we are pretty much in agreement.
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Yeah, I think so. Are you new here? I wasn't sure, which is why I posted that stuff about "I think you know that." Just hedging my bets in case you did, didn't want to cause offense.
Anyway, if you are, welcome. :)
(Also, the site is back. Rock sauce!)
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Yup I'm new. I'm just really hoping now that Dollhouse is done, maybe Joss will try to get something done on the Firefly front. I think it was by far his best creation.
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He has said he's going to announce his next project right after the last episode of Dollhouse airs. That's pretty quick if it's not something he had in mind already... I'm hoping for something Firefly related too. Fox's franchise rights are almost up, and who knows? Maybe Whedon producing Dollhouse for Fox had a kind of hidden deal attached to it, if Joss made them another show, he could get the rights back or something.
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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Not clear on the subject of Ret-con. Never heard of it. The definition " retroactive continuity" doesn't help either. Somebody 'splain? In small, simple words, with examples...
The best and most recent example I can think of is not from Firefly but the new Battlestar Galactica.
Chief Tyrol and Callie have a son named Nicholas. Then it is learned that Chief is really a Cylon. But it had already been established that Helo and Sharon's daughter Hera was the one and only genuine authentic human/Cylon hybrid child. So they ret-conned that Chief wasn't actually Nicholas' father, Hot-Dog was. Yeah, sounds lame doesn't it? About as lame as most of that show's final season.
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I would love to see some Firefly/Serenity tvmovie
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I've never understood why the movie can't be ret-conned. It happens all the time in other franchises.
Yeah, but it happens with franchises where writing are..... probably the lowest concern. Not so with Firefly.
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Quality of writing might be a little harsh. Now, QUANTITY, that has an effect. If you get a large enough collection to gather from, eventually continuity errors will creep in. Happened in Star Trek, and some parts of the prequel episodes of Star Wars retconned stuff in the EU and even the original trilogy.
Doesn't necessarily have to mean bad writing. If Joss happened to write himself into a corner with some of the character deaths, I could accept a retcon. There's pros and cons to the character deaths, and pros and cons to writing them so they didn't happen. I'm for whatever makes it easier for Joss to tell more stories. :)
It's not like he never resurrected anyone in Buffy. Of course, this is more realistic sci-fi, it'd be hard to pull that off believably. But I don't know that it's impossible or forbidden within the constraints of the story or setting, either.
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