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Over four years since Serenity came out, has time changed your opinion of it at all?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:34 PM

Like it more than ever especially now that i'm watching blu-ray 1080p on a 50" plasma with Onkyo receiver outputting DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 (why wasn't it 7.1??)

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:16 PM

The BDM is a very different experience than the Series' episodes. It's dark and somewhat depressing. But there's enough of Firefly in it to make it work for me. I watch Serenity probably 4-5 times a year. I love the opening sequence leading up to the first appearance of Serenity roaring over the planet. It's still one of my all-time favorite movies.

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 2:19 PM

I'm in the 'liked the series better' crowd. To me, the movie tried to tell too grand a story. I'd have preferred something more personal, rather than chases all across the 'verse, evil conspiracies, and endless space, gun, and martial arts battles.

And when you have an Operative down, finish him!

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 3:40 PM

I, too, still prefer the series.
But the last time I looked at the BDM, I came away with a changed impression of The Operative. He's not just a mindless bad guy, some sort of evil personified.He chooses to do monstrous things, but he is in service of a goal, however that goal may be unworthy. And he is aware that what he's doing is evil, but he sees it as service to a higher good. And he realizes when his further efforts will no longer prevent his failure, and so stops, preventing further damage. It may be too late for changing his mind to do much good, but he does. It may be that a sensible person would have given up way before. And I find a little bit of sympathy for him. " Not , you know, a whole lot..."

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:01 PM

It's certainly not even close to my favorite film, but it's pretty good.

I think Aliens, and Blade Runner are better films.



Firefly was uncanny. The series was just mesmerizing. Serenity...not so much.

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:07 PM

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
Like it more than ever especially now that i'm watching blu-ray 1080p on a 50" plasma with Onkyo receiver outputting DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 (why wasn't it 7.1??)



Niiiice!

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:58 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
To me, the movie tried to tell too grand a story. I'd have preferred something more personal...

I agree with the more personal, so I did something about that. The ending of Serenity came down to a choice between River being shot in the back by soldiers or the Operative granting her clemency. I feel that was a weakness in the movie. I though the screenplay needed to be far more intense, with Mal grabbing for life rather than the Alliance, alone, deciding who lives.

So I rewrote the scene years ago: http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=12835 The movie still ends exactly the same but Mal decides who survives, not the Alliance. All I did was add fireworks and crash a Reaver ship inside the hanger. Those Reavers are damn stubborn!

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:00 PM

In hindsight, Serenity feels like one big info dump. It had to be. Joss had to do too much in the movie. Info dump or not, I can barely remember seeing Serenity for the first time. I came out of the theater in a daze and my knees like Jell-O. I didn't really settle down and take it all in until I saw it the third time (of seven viewings right after it was released).

I wish now more than ever that Joss had the opportunity (and time) to tell his story in full. Make that "show his story", rather than "tell his story". I can only imagine what it would have been like had "River the Reaver Slayer" (*snort*) gotten her marbles back at the end of season, say, five?

MalsWay and I make it a point to watch the series and Serenity at least once before going to Dragon*Con every year. "Yep! Still heartbroken!"


"Whatever is wrong with you is so right for me." -- Marillion.

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Friday, December 25, 2009 12:59 AM

I put the film above the series, but that may be due to the fact that it's what made me a browncoat. I'd never seen the series prior to stumbling across the movie (which I expected to suck) on dvd. Now I've seen it all, more than a few times and place them both among my all time favorites. But the series was itself was a little inconsistent (which is somewhat to be expected in a young fledgling show.) Some episodes are fantastic, but there were a few missteps. On the whole, what we saw was merely scratching the surface of what was to come. It was definitely trending upwards. For a film to somehow compress all of those infinite possibilities into two hours, is too much to ask. But what it did do, was very powerfully wrap things up. If there is to be no more firefly, that was a great way to cap it off.

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Monday, December 28, 2009 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
I think Aliens, and Blade Runner are better films.

I won't argue that because they are. I was speaking entirely subjectively here.
Like Frank Langella said in Cutthroat Island, "Love- who can explain it."


The laughing Chrisisall

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