Are Americans a Broken People?
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 18, 2026 03:15
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"Maybe if you stopped calling people cowards and bitches they might."
lol
True. But then again, I can't be helped in calling a spade a spade.
(Before you jump on me, I didn't mean it in a racist way)
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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Are Americans a Broken People?
Yes!
In days gone by there were social and political differences among citizens for sure, but Americans could come together on big things and be one people when needed. But now, everything is so acutely polarized and so politically correct that I fear any trace of "common bond" is gone.
You have your vision, and you have your disappointments with the state of things in America. So do I, but from a much different perspective. Ultimately we cannot even agree on what's wrong or right. That makes it tough to move forward without further alienation and disenchantment.
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Quote:Why would you say THAT? (Other than you being your usual dickheaded self of course.) Does it make YOU feel more justified, or better? If you really want to know, just ask. You clearly don't, but I'll tell you anyway:
Does the idea of Americans as a Broken People make you feel better, or more justified?
It makes me feel very sad.
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I think that's a big, steamy pile 
Some people like to feel like they're part of the down trodden, the underdogs, the broken because it helps comfort them. "Why am I not...?"
As far as us going quietly, just the opposite. Town Halls anyone? By any measure, we have filled the airwaves, print media and most of the Internet with anger and complaints and endless overlapping streams of uninformed opinions. The only thing that is broken is our ability to FOCUS, and block out all the noise.
This sounds like an *intellectual* trying a little too hard imho.
"Television: In his book Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television (1978), Jerry Mander (after reviewing totalitarian critics such as George Orwell, Aldous Huxley, Jacques Ellul, and Ivan Illich) compiled a list of the "Eight Ideal Conditions for the Flowering of Autocracy."
Mander claimed that television helps create all eight conditions for breaking a population. Television, he explained, (1) occupies people so that they don't know themselves -- and what a human being is; (2) separates people from one another; (3) creates sensory deprivation; (4) occupies the mind and fills the brain with prearranged experience and thought; (5) encourages drug use to dampen dissatisfaction (while TV itself produces a drug-like effect, this was compounded in 1997 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration relaxing the rules of prescription-drug advertising); (6) centralizes knowledge and information; (7) eliminates or "museumize" other cultures to eliminate comparisons; and (8) redefines happiness and the meaning of life."
Also, someone who doesn't like change.
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Quote:And what if you're wrong? What if the people you think of as cowards are actually very brave? What if the people you think of as bitches are actually nicer than you? (That's not too much of a challenge, tho.)
I can't be helped in calling a spade a spade.
You see, Wulf, you think you really know it all. Coming from someone who can't even explain himself w/o resorting to a video clip, I would say you don't even know yourself.
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Except, we are all allowed our opinions. I can say you are a bitch and a coward for refusing to defend the weak. Or for saying that we are not allowed to speak our minds, or to protect ourselves. Its my opinion, but still?
I am allowed it.
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"I may disagree with what you say, sir.. but I will defend with my life, your right to say it."
Until you understand that, yes.... Bitches and cowards.
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Of course you are. But we're also allowed not to listen, eh? So why whine about peeps not listening to you? It's just more of the same... you're always throwing temper tantrums anyway (just like Geezer is always putting words into people's mouths). Your time would be better spent improving the quality and insight of your posts.
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Jongsstraw- I suspect, though, that we are both reacting to the same issues and there are more areas of agreement between the two of us than you might imagine.
One of the things I think people are reacting to is the sense that "things" are too distant, too complex, too immoveable, too centralized - government, business, the way we make our living
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One thing that give me hope
years ago, when this board started I brought up many of the issues we still discuss today, and was faced with a wall of " America is the best country ever " and we can do no wrong crap.
Now, after eight or is it nine? years of Bush I think many Americans are starting to see America the way people outside the US see it
kind of a geopolitical 12 step program
your starting to admit there is a problem
Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists 
Lets party like its 1939
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