Trolls need love too!
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Sunday, December 13, 2009 07:31
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Originally posted by RiverDancer:
I think you are mistaken. I think he is a jackass. I've either read more of his craziness than you have, or I read a little more crazy than you do. () I've also stared theorizing that kingie and jameron are the same jackass. They have very similar expressions, though one of them has at least tried to pretend, at times, that he's not a complete asshole. If I am right, then he's twice the jackass. Either way, though, he's kind of a jackass. If you feel like slumming down in troll country, you'll see some of what I'm talking about.
So because i provide a different view, i'm a jackass? But aren't jackasses those idiots who INTENTIONALLY hurt themselves because they have no life? You know like Bam Bam, and Johnny?
Now on to me and Kingie. I hate that idiot with every fiber of my being. He is about as dumb as Riverlove, THE WORST TROLL HERE, and crazier than a can of worms on crack. By the way, since when does proper English have to do anything with the internet, i mean EXPRESSIONISM, does that have any meaning in your vocabulary?
"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22
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If your sentence is incomprehensible, it will not be comprehended. Proper use of language and freedom of expression are not mutually exclusive. In fact, you may find your expression to be enhanced when people can actually understand what you're saying. I could type utter gobbledigook and claim it was my freedom to express myself in such a way, but that wouldn't mean anyone reading it would know what I was saying.
I am not an English teacher at this moment in time. Odds are someday I will be, but right now I'm still working on my Masters. I'm not sure if you were attempting to insult me or not, but I've never been closed-mouthed about my direction of study, or my preference for comprehensible expression.
I think you should read the definition of 'jackass' again. Clearly you missed it.
And yes, your not-at-all-different from the average jackass 'viewpoint' along with your general jackassery in how you 'express' yourself makes you a jackass. And if you hate lil kingie so much, you shouldn't emulate him to such a degree. Jackass.
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Jameron, you're entitled to your own opinions and expression, but I don't think you're entitled to your own rules of grammar and punctuation, and you're certainly not entitled to your own facts (see anything you've written about WWII, for instance).
If you behave as an uneducated jackass, you really forfeit your rights to get angry at being called an uneducated jackass.
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by jameron4eva:
Man that proves it, your an English teacher, one whom has no beliiefe in freedom of expression.
Well, all the English teachers I know would be quite amused to hear that they don't believe in freedom of expression.
"We need to keep our heads so we can ... keep our heads."
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Originally posted by RiverDancer:
If your sentence is incomprehensible, it will not be comprehended. Proper use of language and freedom of expression are not mutually exclusive. In fact, you may find your expression to be enhanced when people can actually understand what you're saying. I could type utter gobbledigook and claim it was my freedom to express myself in such a way, but that wouldn't mean anyone reading it would know what I was saying.
I am not an English teacher at this moment in time. Odds are someday I will be, but right now I'm still working on my Masters. I'm not sure if you were attempting to insult me or not, but I've never been closed-mouthed about my direction of study, or my preference for comprehensible expression.
I think you should read the definition of 'jackass' again. Clearly you missed it.
And yes, your not-at-all-different from the average jackass 'viewpoint' along with your general jackassery in how you 'express' yourself makes you a jackass. And if you hate lil kingie so much, you shouldn't emulate him to such a degree. Jackass.
Does Barry Manillow know you raid his waredrobe?
Oh and by the way, SCOTTLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22
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Why is punctuation and grammer are such a BIG DEAL in society today? I mean yes it does help to understand what someone is saying. But that line of thinking, everything has to be perfect, is like saying translating a language needs to have a direct translation. No, the biggest thing involved with ANY type of form of art, or writing, except for business, are two things, FEELINGS and INTENT. Now i know your a college student, most anyway, but some of the best essays, and writings, were nonsensical, and half gibberish. A big example of this is Gregory Chaucer's "Canterbury Tales", in the english of the time, when it was a second rate, trash language. I mean who spells April with two "LL"'s?
"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22
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Who is this "Gregory Chaucer" of whom you speak? I've not heard of him.
Not having accurate translations is how you end up with garbage like the bible. There's your result of thinking you can translate someone's "feelings and intent" without translating their words accurately. You end up with a bunch of dudes sitting around saying, "Okay, and then Jesus said, 'Let them blow llamas!', or some such nonsense. Will that work? Can we put that?"
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Who is this "Gregory Chaucer" of whom you speak? I've not heard of him.
That's because there is no such person, at least in relation to literature. There was a Geoffrey Chaucer who is credited with the stories chronicled as 'Canterbury Tales.' They were not written in any nonsensical form of the language, though Middle English might seem nonsensical to those who don't make such things their area of study. Its usage as Geoffrey Chaucer knew it was actually defunct soon after his death. Later copyings of the Tales muddled the language even further at times, attempting to make it modern (or what was modern at the time) and only making it inconsistent. Original copies of the Tales by Chauncer's scribe show no such inconsistency. To call the Tales nonsense only shows lingual ignorance.
Nonsense has its place. As I've said elsewhere, Alice in Wonderland is one of my very favorite works, and Carroll was a master of nonsense verse. Even such verse, however, has rules and structure. Words that are not entirely invented are used in their own proper way. A verse may be talking of something utterly nonsensical, such as a walrus and a carpenter coaxing little oysters to come for a walk only to devour them, but it's the situation that is nonsense, not the grammar. When Humpty Dumpty changes the meanings of words to his own liking, he makes himself incomprehensible and confusing. His is the ultimate arrogance, his pride coming before a great fall. That nonsense was subtle and deliberate commentary. Incomprehensible grammar just for the hell of it is usually just lazy, or sometimes spiteful when one knows it might push some buttons. Lewis Carroll it most certainly is not.
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Thanks, RiverDancer - I was being facetious, but it DOES bring up a good point. You mention Carroll's use of nonsensical verse, and its rules and structure, which brings this all around to the Whedonverse. One of the things I love about Joss, and which grabbed me pretty quickly once I finally started watching his shows (Buffy first), was Joss's ability to mangle the language AND MAKE IT WORK. People think he's just being nonsensical in his writing, but he's got enough mastery of the language to take it apart a bit and mash it back together, and still leave you knowing EXACTLY what he's talking about.
People who say that they can spout gibberish and call themselves clever writers have no idea what they're talking about. It takes someone who REALLY knows his or her language to be able to write "sensical nonsense".
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
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