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Best band in HISTORY!!!! ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

POSTED BY: jameron4eva
UPDATED: Friday, December 18, 2009 08:13
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Saturday, December 5, 2009 5:10 AM

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AC/DC Has the second best selling album in the WORLD,("Back in Black", with over 200 million units sold, and Kwicko never even mentions them! What's up with that man? I mean you have the masterfully energetic Angus Young on the lead guitar, his brother Malcom is his back up, Phil Rdd on the drums, BOTH Brian Johnson, and Mister BON "FRIGGIN'" SCOTT, ( R.I.P.), And you don't have them on your list? Man they were the most influential in the 80's, they have produced multiple hit albums, here in the US, and internationally, they have had a major sound change in the vox department, AND ARE STILL GOING STRONG INTO 2010! So why aren't they on your list Kwicko? By the way, "Black Ice", is a GREAT album, it needs more sells.



1) Are we basing "best" purely on number of sales? If so, bow down before Michael Jackson, the best band in the world. You seem to confuse "best" and "most popular". Look at the most popular student in your school. Is he or she THE BEST student, just by getting more votes (sales)?

2) I just never cared for AC/DC. I tried, I really did. I bought Powerage when it came out (I think it was their second or third album, Bon Scott was still alive and kicking, Brion Jones was still singing with some little outfit called "Geordie" or some such), and I found it derivative. It was the same old standard blues-rock that so many before had ground out, and that Zeppelin were still doing better than most. So I never found AC/DC to be that influential or that great. Sorry. Your mileage may vary.

You can feel free to include them on your list, though. I didn't list Queen, either, but I find them quite good AND quite influential. There's never been a pure rock singer with the chops of Freddie Mercury before, or since, and the band's harmonies were amazing, and to this day, nobody has figured out Brian May's guitar sound.

Heck, for that matter, I could list Les Paul and Mary Ford as the best band in history. After all, Les Paul gave us the electric guitar, multi-track recording, overdubbing of voices for a fuller chorus sound, etc. He did more for rock music than anyone, with the possible exceptions of Elvis (who popularized the form), The Beatles (who actually forced critics to accept that "rock and roll" could be ART), and Jimi Hendrix (who changed so much about the ideas of what a guitarist was and how feedback and effects in the studio could be used to explore sonic landscapes).

I also didn't list The Doors. Jim Morrison was something else entirely. He was Frank Sinatra, if Old Blue Eyes had just returned from the Manson Family Picnic. At his heart, he was a crooner, a romantic, a singer of tortured torch songs, a poet, a prophet, and amused to be a muse. Ray Manzarek channelled Kurt Weill and Bertolt Brecht and pushed it all through a mad-calliope swirling, whirling organ, while Robbie Krieger tried to ground the band in some kind of reality, but usually ended up going off on his own fantastic tangents, all while seeming to keep the band on track and on course - no matter where that course might take them!

See? You make your own list, of the music that matters. What's the stuff that you'd want to have on a desert island if you were marooned? Find your ten "desert island discs", but be careful about some of the newer ones, because you might find that they're just a flash in the pan.

I don't care for that much of Bruce Springsteen's work, but I'd hate to have to go long without hearing the entire "Born To Run" album. It's important enough TO ME (note: it's important TO ME, but may not do a thing FOR YOU) that I've bought it three times on vinyl, twice on cassette, and I'm currently on my fourth copy of the CD. If I gank a copy off Limewire for my iTunes collection, do you think they'll come after me for the royalties? :)
For all that, I know people who can't stand that record. I married one of them!

The Clash: Certainly important, clearly influential.
Green Day: Not so much. They're cute, and their music is fine, but I refer to them as "BubblePunk"; they aren't real punk. Listen t

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Saturday, December 5, 2009 5:21 AM

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Originally posted by dmaanlileiltt:
I would say that The Beatles (because how can you not), The Who (because Townshend was a damn good songwriter, Daltrey was a damn good singer and Entwhistle and Moon were damn good rhythmists), The Clash (you want variety London Calling has it in shitloads), AC/DC (because they have sold a more than a few albums), Pink Floyd (say what you want David Gilmour was a fucking brilliant guitarist and singer), Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton (both amazing musicians), and maybe Aerosmith or The Rolling Stones or Guns 'N Roses (just to cover that section) as probably the most important rock n roll bands and musicians. But I would probably also count some of the blues legends like Robert Johnson.



Agreed on The Who - good points. Ditto The Clash. Pink Floyd I loved, but only with Waters. Gilmour and Waters NEED each other; they don't work nearly as well without each other, like Johnny Marr and Morrissey. :)

Clapton, I hesitate, just because he can be so hit and miss. I love some of his work, but a huge amount of it just bores me. His 1979 double live album, "Just One Night", is in my estimation one of the very best live albums ever recorded. The songs are songs you've heard before ("Lay Down Sally", "Wonderful Tonight", "Cocaine", etc.), but never with this kind of energy. He did do some rather amazing guitar work on Roger Waters's "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking" album, just after Waters left Pink Floyd. It's some of my favorite of Clapton's work, I think because Waters was probably pushing him to a peak of creativity Clapton himself might otherwise not push as hard for.

G-n-R, I'll give a grudging nod. They actually spurred my interest back into the SoCal rock scene, after plastic acts like Poison and Motley Crue had ruined the hard rock genre for me in the early 80s. G-n-R had a gritty viciousness that assuaged my angry inner punk, and they had the hard edge that appealed to my headbanging metal-head side as well.

And yes, Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Guitar Slim, John Lee Hooker, Albert King, Buddy Guy... all those guys are high up in the pantheon, because without them, acts like Clapton, the Stones, Zeppelin, AC/DC, and even The Beatles wouldn't have had any music to learn on!

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Saturday, December 5, 2009 5:38 AM

By the way, sorry to keep rambling on; I *do* loves me some music! And I'll listen to just about anything. My iTunes cache is not over 30Gb of music. It says if I put it on play with no repeats, it will play for over eighteen days straight. And I don't even have my CDs downloaded to my computer yet! Not to mention the 2000 vinyl albums I've still got tucked away.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Saturday, December 5, 2009 5:58 AM

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Originally posted by BigRichard:
well I like B.B. King.

I saw the It Might Get Loud documentary recently, part of which is about The Edge, and he was very interesting, but at the same time, I felt like he's more of a sound engineer than a guitarist...or something like that. Don't get me wrong, he's great at getting what he wants from the guitar, I just wouldn't say he's one of the greatest guitarists, as many lists have claimed him to be. The perfection he puts into getting the right sound though, is fantastic. That documentary is worth a watch btw.

I'll see if I can find a copy of Rattle and Hum, might be worth a watch.



That's about where I come out on The Edge - he's great at shaping a sound and toying with the effects, but if you strip out all the echo and effects, there's not that much actual fretwork going on. Still, sound matters, and The Edge does have a unique sound.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Saturday, December 5, 2009 6:04 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
By the way, sorry to keep rambling on; I *do* loves me some music! And I'll listen to just about anything. My iTunes cache is not over 30Gb of music. It says if I put it on play with no repeats, it will play for over eighteen days straight. And I don't even have my CDs downloaded to my computer yet! Not to mention the 2000 vinyl albums I've still got tucked away.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde



DAMN!!!! That's a LOT of money man, where you get all that? I mean job, bills, and food, and car and gas takes up a good chunk of the phat cash.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Saturday, December 5, 2009 12:58 PM

that Just One Night album IS great. Kudos on mentioning it.

I'm in a similar boat with Clapton, although in my opinion, the guy has done enough to warrant being loved by me. Sure, some of it is kinda samey and boring, but in my opinion he's done enough classics to the point where you can forgive him for the others.

What about Dire Straits? I don't think I've seen them mentioned on here?
Maybe not the best band ever, but I'll be damned if their Brothers in Arms CD isn't absolute brilliance.
One of my favourite performances by Mark Knopfler:




Also, I noticed Buddy Guy was mentioned. If anyone has the opportunity to see him live, do it. Don't even hesitate. If you like his music, and you like guitars, and solos, and a great time, get tickets. He may be 73, but damn that guy has energy.

Buddy Guy at the Crossroads concert:

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Saturday, December 5, 2009 2:19 PM

Not sure about the "Best" heading because as most have said, many of the artists listed previously are peoples favorites.

So here's mine...

Beatles... One of the best but not a huge favorite of mine.

Queen... No doubt, one of the best.

Same for Pink Floyd.

One not mentioned that I like is Kansas. The blending of Classical strings as primary instruments along with the standard guitars.

Another group not mentioned that was both unique and innovative is Genesis. Both with and without Peter Gabriel.

Same can be said for Rush. Prog Rock that rocks. Innovative and sometimes strange/Scifi (By-tor and the snow dog?) but still good stuff.

Someone mentioned Little Feat... I got taken in by one of their more mainstream hits, bought the Live at Neon Park CD and was blown away.

No one mentioned Heart. While their music was fairly mainstream and admittedly influenced by groups like Zeppelin, they proved that girls could rock!

My tastes are varied. My MP3 list has everything from Buffett to Metalica with a little of everything thrown in the middle.


Bri

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Saturday, December 5, 2009 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by jameron4eva:

DAMN!!!! That's a LOT of money man, where you get all that? I mean job, bills, and food, and car and gas takes up a good chunk of the phat cash.



1) I work my ass off. And have been doing so since I was 13.

2) I've accumulated music roughly since I was about 9 years old, when I bought that Black Sabbath album. Yeah, Sabbath at age nine MIGHT have something to do with my twisted and cynical sensibilities... ;)

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Sunday, December 6, 2009 12:05 AM

i can't believe i forgot Queen and Dire Straits but i would also have those.

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Sunday, December 6, 2009 1:51 AM

Yuppers. Dire Straits was (were?) amazing. I'm particularly fond of their debut album, but really, everything up through Brothers In Arms was unsurpassed.

See what Imean? There's just too many that have to go on a "best" list; how can you choose just one "best"?

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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