Why Switzerland Has The Lowest Crime Rate In The World

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Can you imagine the uproar if our government sponsored a shooting match for all its citizens, and provided them ammo free of charge, and even issued them weapons?

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Yes, even I was shocked how how smart that is to have a free national shootin match, and how horrific for national security that USA don't do the same.

Note the guy said he'd never let Hitler happen in his county. That requires killing your insane criminal leaders and killing all the insane crooked cops who try to enforce those insane bogus "laws".

US Senator Bob Corker's daughter carjacked today in the DC Victim Disarmament Constitution-Free Zone
www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/dec/03/sen-corkers-daughter-carjacked-washi
ngton-dc-area/

Corker got busted for hiring dozens of illegal aliens, but of course he didn't forfeit his business or go to prison, like other business had to do in TN. Instead Corker got promoted to Congress.

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It is a different culture, if the US cloned these laws I think it would turn into a wild west movie...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland


Gun crime
Further information: Gun violence and Crime in Switzerland

Police statistics for the year 2006[13] records 34 killings or attempted killings involving firearms, compared to 69 cases involving bladed weapons and 16 cases of unarmed assault. Cases of assault resulting in bodily harm numbered 89 (firearms) and 526 (bladed weapons). This represents a decline of aggravated assaults involving firearms since the early 1990s. Some 300 deaths per year are due to legally held army ordinance weapons, the large majority of these being suicides. The majority of gun crimes involving domestic violence are perpetrated with army ordnance weapons, while the majority of gun crime outside the domestic sphere involves illegally held firearms.[14]



34 Gun killings in a year...

69 knife killings in the same year...


New York does this in a week doesn't it ?



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Lets party like its 1939

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Gino

Ahem

More like LA ;)


Oh, as for Kennesaw aka Big Shanty, the civil war massacre was not the towns first. That would be around 30 years earlier, shortly after the railroad town was built on a township in the recognized sovereign Cherokee Nation, ya missed that step. Of course, the Cherokee had the right to bear arms, but did not have the firepower of the ancestors of the current inhabitants of the town. Relatively unknown is that the Cherokee were relatively "civilized" in western terms, more like the mezo-american civilizations.

Jes sayin

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You couldn't get a much different situation than gun ownership in the two countries of Switzerland and US. interestingly, I believe that the Swiss are doing what the Founding Fathers intended - which was not about stockpiling weapons under your bed to keep your family safe from home invasion by the neighbourhood criminal element, but having a well armed militia. As such, males undergo military training and are then given a weapon to keep at home for military use only. My understanding is that weapons are kept secured separate from ammo and there are a host of rules around how you keep and use them. I would assume that provision for keeping such weapons would be also based on psychological fitness, which means those sort of people who suffer paranoid delusions about ridiculous world conspiracies and spend 24 hours a day on the net telling everyone about them would probably be excluded from ownership.

The Swiss are a law abiding nation, they love laws and rules to the extent that anyone with a vague libertarian bent would probably only last a very short time there.

Germanic cultures seem to like rules and likes to follow them. It's a bit of a stereotype, but anyone who has travelled in Europe knows there are very different attitudes towards laws in different countries. Italy on the other hand, seems to regards laws as 'guidelines only' - perhaps not even that - something that applies to someone else.

Gino, no offense intended if you are of Italian descent.

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But the only catch is that with the Swiss's, appoligizing ahead of time, policy on "NEUTRALITY", they have no will to use the weapons. Hell they didn't even try and stop Hitler, and the Nazi's, by the way not all Germans are Nazi's, in fact i hate those blond headed, blue beady-eyed punks for screwing Germany's reputation. The Swiss had a little bit of influence with Germany, and they didn't even try, cowards. Sorry rant is off.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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I do have to note that the Swiss tried a "gun free zone" once - and within a month several people were gunned down on the steps thereof, lemme see if I can find a cite for that....

ETA - found the incident, but cannot seem to find a cite for them making the parliment building a weapons-free zone some time prior to that, which I *do* remember cause my first reaction was "no good will come of this".
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/28/world/14-killed-in-attack-on-a-swiss
-legislature.html

Life itself isn't safe though, it's not the weapons that are dangerous, it's the people, and the crazier we make em, the more dangerous they are.

Swiss are overall, a saner folk, and THAT is why the place is safer, not because of the guns, but because of the sanity.

At least do me the favor of putting your fear in the right place, yes ?

-F

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Originally posted by jameron4eva:
But the only catch is that with the Swiss's, appoligizing ahead of time, policy on "NEUTRALITY", they have no will to use the weapons. Hell they didn't even try and stop Hitler, and the Nazi's, by the way not all Germans are Nazi's, in fact i hate those blond headed, blue beady-eyed punks for screwing Germany's reputation. The Swiss had a little bit of influence with Germany, and they didn't even try, cowards. Sorry rant is off.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Unlike the US who continued to sell Steel amongst other war materials to Germany until late 1941, the Swiss broke ties with the Nazis in the mid 1930s.

In 1939, when Britain, France, Canada, etc entered the war against Germany, the Swiss went to %100 mobilization, and political control of the country was turned over to General Henri Guisan... who prepared to face a German invasion, do as much damage to the attacker as possible, then retreat into a prolonged guerrilla campaign.

He made it very clear that Switzerland would resist any Nazi invasion. If they ran out of bullets they were to resort to the bayonet. He said that Switzerland would defend itself against any invader and would never surrender.[4] The Swiss government had a decentralised structure, so even the Federal President was a relatively powerless official with no authority to surrender the country. Indeed, Swiss citizens had been instructed to regard any surrender broadcast as enemy lies and resist to the end

The Swiss airforce shot down many German aircraft which strayed into Swiss territory, and later in the war began to shoot down American bombers who were lost and bombing the wrong country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland_during_the_World_Wars


To do anything outrageous would have been national suicide, and pointless. The only way Germany wouldn't have lost the war to the Russians, was if Germany deployed nukes... and even then it is a maybe.

So any way, lots of will... just they pick their fights better than most do.

I read a story once that Guisan met with one of Germany field marshals right before the war. The Field Marshal scoffed at the idea of a swiss defence and said so you have 50,000 troops on your border... what would you do if I attacked with 200,000 men. Guisan answered that each of his men would fire 4 shots, then go home for dinner.

Don't know if that last is true, just thought it a cool story.



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Lets party like its 1939

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

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Originally posted by jameron4eva:
But the only catch is that with the Swiss's, appoligizing ahead of time, policy on "NEUTRALITY", they have no will to use the weapons. Hell they didn't even try and stop Hitler, and the Nazi's, by the way not all Germans are Nazi's, in fact i hate those blond headed, blue beady-eyed punks for screwing Germany's reputation. The Swiss had a little bit of influence with Germany, and they didn't even try, cowards. Sorry rant is off.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Unlike the US who continued to sell Steel amongst other war materials to Germany until late 1941, the Swiss broke ties with the Nazis in the mid 1930s.

In 1939, when Britain, France, Canada, etc entered the war against Germany, the Swiss went to %100 mobilization, and political control of the country was turned over to General Henri Guisan... who prepared to face a German invasion, do as much damage to the attacker as possible, then retreat into a prolonged guerrilla campaign.

He made it very clear that Switzerland would resist any Nazi invasion. If they ran out of bullets they were to resort to the bayonet. He said that Switzerland would defend itself against any invader and would never surrender.[4] The Swiss government had a decentralised structure, so even the Federal President was a relatively powerless official with no authority to surrender the country. Indeed, Swiss citizens had been instructed to regard any surrender broadcast as enemy lies and resist to the end

The Swiss airforce shot down many German aircraft which strayed into Swiss territory, and later in the war began to shoot down American bombers who were lost and bombing the wrong country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland_during_the_World_Wars


To do anything outrageous would have been national suicide, and pointless. The only way Germany wouldn't have lost the war to the Russians, was if Germany deployed nukes... and even then it is a maybe.

So any way, lots of will... just they pick their fights better than most do.

I read a story once that Guisan met with one of Germany field marshals right before the war. The Field Marshal scoffed at the idea of a swiss defence and said so you have 50,000 troops on your border... what would you do if I attacked with 200,000 men. Guisan answered that each of his men would fire 4 shots, then go home for dinner.

Don't know if that last is true, just thought it a cool story.



Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists


Lets party like its 1939

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Ahhh... but the Swiss banks were full of STOLEN Jewish Gold and money, all stolen and put there by the Nazi's. And the Swiss used it to fund the country, and they let Nazi's taje the money. So Switzerland, while putting on a face of indifference, was actually supporting the Nazi's.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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