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Afghan culture and people

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NIKI2

Thursday, December 3, 2009 1:09 AM

Never said absolutely that either Afghanistan or Iran were natural deserts. If anyone remembers, it was I who first said that the desert was "created", largely by the traveling kuchis. Whether the entirety of the country was or not is way beyond my knowledge. I believe Afghanistan might have been at least partly a natural desert, worsened by humanity to the state it's in.

The Australian figures just jumped out at me as I was searching, they weren't in reference to anything specific, just a huge number to conceive of as being destroyed by humans, especialy insofar as I know, that Australia has never been highly populated. It's neither here nor there..

Afghanistan has endured numerous droughts, as well, which contributed and continue to do so. And whether I believe it or not, there's nothing I can do about it, so there IS no "take a chance".

We'll just have to agree to disagree; I continue to believe there are deserts which were created by nature, and I believe both the cite I provided and the facts the Perfesser gave are pretty logical.

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, December 3, 2009 1:29 AM

Nik,

Everyone is free to believe what they want.

Now,

Back to Afghanistan.

GINOBIFFARONI

Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:24 AM

Afghan responses to Obamas peace prize

Afghans angry at Obama's Nobel win

THE BIG CHILL IN OSLO

December 14, 2009
I guess President Barack Obama has never read Benjamin Franklin’s maxim, “there never was a good war, or a bad peace.”
Obama’s speech in Oslo proclaiming Afghanistan a “good” war and trying to justify US global military operations echoes to America’s detriment around Europe and, more important, the Muslim world.

The president’s address dismayed many who foolishly hoped the “anti-war” president might curb or even end his wars because of a highly politicized and leftish Swedish award. Not so. America’s military-industrial-financial juggernaut continues to roll on.

But what could Obama do? Unwilling to turn down the award he did not solicit, the president had to turn up in Oslo and accept a peace prize as he was widening and deepening the Afghanistan war. In retrospect, he probably should have turned the prize down, saying, as he did at Oslo, that he has not yet done enough to merit such an award.

full story

http://www.ericmargolis.com/political_commentaries/the-big-chill-in-os
lo.aspx

Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists

Lets party like its 1939

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:54 PM

Gino

Norway.

Otherwise, good points, but I don't know if you noticed during his campaign a lack of humility on the part of Obama, oh he of the pre-presidential seal, and the mock up parthenon where he put himself in place of Zeus?

Now what happened with leaders like this before, Pericles, Augustus, Oh, I see, can go either way: Empire, or Fall.

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:27 PM

Editted for the pun.

Sorry, it just suddenly seemed fitting and oh so necessary.

Hopefully Niki will come by with more insights and change it back.

NIKI2

Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:00 PM

I have no further insights to offer, my feelings about our involvement in Afghanistan have been expressed elsewhere. But I do disagree with changing titles (tho' I sometimes--but rarely--do so myself), especially in this case, were the thread was CREATED to discuss the culture of Afghanistan, not to discuss the war. It would be nice if the thread were returned to being about that, but I recognize that threads have lives of their own. Would be nice if someone would start a thread discussing the war, not the culture...in fact I'll probably do so.

But in this case, changing the title is particularly reprehensible to me, so I'll change it to reflect what it was supposed to be about.

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:12 PM

Niki,

Good point. Sorry I joined the war digression

I missed the thread title change.

NIKI2

Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:17 PM

No apologies necessary. All threads diverge from their original topic. I just wanted to ask respectfully if the discussion of the war could be put in a thread where it belonged, rather than this one (which obviously I take personally, especially as you offered it to me and started it by saying it should be about Afghanistan itself).

Let's let this one sink, and debate the war in the other one, 'kay? That's all I ask.

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:17 PM

Sorry about that, I don't normally change the titles.

It would be interesting to hear a cultural take on the war, though, what groups are with which faction and why. Perhaps you might still have some insights that way, so I'll look forward to the thread you mentioned.

GINOBIFFARONI

Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
I have no further insights to offer, my feelings about our involvement in Afghanistan have been expressed elsewhere. But I do disagree with changing titles (tho' I sometimes--but rarely--do so myself), especially in this case, were the thread was CREATED to discuss the culture of Afghanistan, not to discuss the war. It would be nice if the thread were returned to being about that, but I recognize that threads have lives of their own. Would be nice if someone would start a thread discussing the war, not the culture...in fact I'll probably do so.

But in this case, changing the title is particularly reprehensible to me, so I'll change it to reflect what it was supposed to be about.

Sorry Nikki, I posted the You Tube story to illustrate how much of a difference there was in opinions between people living in Kabul ( where I find most Western news sources try to use to gage the entire country ) and the people who live elsewhere in Afghanistan.

I'll post stuff like that in a new thread from now on

Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists

Lets party like its 1939