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WTF??? A shoot-out at Fort Hood???

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Saturday, November 21, 2009 5:42 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

I have no information at this time - but I did note that the IMMEDIATE reaction of both the media and political factors was "Hey, he has an arab sounding name, maybe we can hang this on radical islam, yay!"

There's also likely a factor of secondary caregiver trauma, as mental health personnel treating PTSD tend to suffer a high degree of psychological casualty themselves - and whoever dumped him on Ft Hood from Walter Reed might well have soft-shoed their assessment in order to be well rid of him if he was starting to crack.

Right now, we do not know - and given that first reaction and the bullshit ass-covering spin cycle likely to follow, we might not ever know the facts.

That's all I can say to it, at the moment.

-F




This is not a necropost. I brought this one back up because I distinctly remember reading Frem's warnings on this one, and wanted to bring them back up here and tell him "Good call." You nailed it, pretty much in every detail.



Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:18 PM

Reports said he counseled vets who confessed to warcrimes, and he wanted the military to prosecute them.

But of course his commanders refused.

True or cover story?

Also indictations Hasan and his family was high-level intel, which explains why he was promoted and invited to speak at Homeland Security Cons.
http://web.me.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Articles/Entr
ies/2009/11/16_Entry_1.html


His legal defense will either be a govt sham, or his lawyers will be terrified of being sent to prison themselves, so they'll throw the game.

Lynne Stewart...Heroic Human Rights Lawyer Jailed for Life (no mention allowed of FBI's employee Emad Salem who taped FBI ordering him and giving him the bomb for WTC in 93)
http://rense.com/general88/lyn.htm

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Saturday, November 21, 2009 2:05 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

If he's a jihadist, where's his "suicide tape"? How come nobody's noticed that little missing tidbit - seems radical muslims are pretty notorious for leaving videos behind.



It takes time for casting call and manufacture of lipsync video. Preferably after the patsy is assassinated, like Bin Laden. Half of the 9/11 "suicide hijackers" are still alive, flying for Saudi Airlines and Saudi AF, and giving interviews to BBC News.

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Pelosi Won't Say Whether Osama Bin Laden Should be Told He Has the Right to Remain Silent and Get a Lawyer
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/57443

"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks.”
-Usama bin Laden, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
www.serendipity.li/wot/obl_int.htm

Usama Bin Laden's funeral: Egyptian Paper Al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.html

"He also had dealings with Omar Sheikh [MI6 born in Britain], the man who murdered Usama Bin Laden."
-Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto (assassinated 6 weeks later), BBC interview by Sir David Frost Knight of the British Empire, 2nd November 2007
youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/151951
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/dec/28/pakistan.topstories33

"9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”
—FBI agent Rex Tomb, June 6, 2006
www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

"We've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."
-Dick Cheney, "Interview of the Vice President by Tony Snow", March 29, 2006
www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html
youtube nb3fesK-4S4

OPERATION NORTHWOODS - the signed confession by US Govt for perping sniper attacks to blame patsies in USA
www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1











Watch the movie SHOOTER today, with Marky Mark, on how to frame a patsy.

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Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:48 PM





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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by participant:

Wow, you really aren't very bright, are you?

If he was born in Virginia, then in the vast majority of cases, he IS AN AMERICAN.




Wow you are not very bright are you?

only 20% of Muslim Americans in polls will first say they are US citizens, many identify themselves first as Muslim rather than an American first because the Muslim identity talkes priority. So when asked in polls many admit their Islamic belief comes before the United States
I am against having Islamic marriages, Islamic clerics policing communities or Islamic courts operating in the United States. This reason is why in my opinion it's important that so many American Muslims are not so religious. The more religious they are, the more difficult the problem becomes.


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Originally posted by Kwicko:


Refresh my memory - what branch of "radical Islam" did Tim McVeigh follow? How 'bout David Koresh? Jim Jones? George W. Bush?



Are you calling Bush a terrorist?
Again?



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Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:34 PM

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Posted by Participant:

Wow you are not very bright are you?

only 20% of Muslim Americans in polls will first say they are US citizens, many identify themselves first as Muslim rather than an American first because the Muslim identity talkes priority. So when asked in polls many admit their Islamic belief comes before the United States



How many "christian" Americans in those same polls will renounce their christianity before the name of their country? That IS what you're asking, you realize.

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I am against having Islamic marriages...in the United States. This reason is why in my opinion it's important that so many American Muslims are not so religious. The more religious they are, the more difficult the problem becomes.



You want to outlaw islamic belief in America; how would you feel if christianity were banned in America? Will you join me in stamping out the pervasive and corrosive influence of christianity in our schools and communities?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:


Refresh my memory - what branch of "radical Islam" did Tim McVeigh follow? How 'bout David Koresh? Jim Jones? George W. Bush?



Are you calling Bush a terrorist?
Again?





Yes. If the shoe that's thrown at you fits, try it on.

George W. Bush is responsible for more American deaths than the 9/11 hijackers, and he is responsible for every single Iraqi death since March 2003. Every drop of their blood is on his hands, not that you care one bit about any of them.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:17 PM

Hey. if you can get that 700 club trash off the air I am with you




Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists


Lets party like its 1939

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Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:18 PM

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10610
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The Army psychiatrist charged with killing 13 people at Fort Hood will be confined until his military trial, initially staying in a hospital where he is recovering from gunshot wounds, his lawyer said.

During a hearing in Major Nidal Hasan's room in a Texas hospital yesterday, a magistrate ruled there was probable cause that Hasan committed the November 5 shooting spree at Fort Hood, said his civilian lawyer, John Galligan.

Hasan has been in intensive care at Brooke Army Medical Centre since the shooting.

His lawyer said Hasan had been told he has permanent paralysis. He has no feeling from the chest down and limited movement in his arms.

Yesterday's hearing was closed to the media. Officials at Fort Hood declined to comment.

Hasan has been charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder. Authorities have not said whether they will seek the death penalty.

Galligan said he was concerned about where Hasan would be moved once he was released from hospital, but he did not know when that would happen.

The hearing comes as new revelations about Hasan's monitored email contacts with an extremist preacher in Yemen deepen questions about whether his behaviour should have set off red flags before the shooting rampage.

He told Anwar al-Awlaki that he "couldn't wait to join him in the discussions they would be having over non-alcoholic wine in the afterlife", according to ABC News. He also asked the cleric when jihad (holy war) was appropriate and whether it was permissible if innocents were killed in a suicide attack.


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Every drop of their blood is on his hands, not that you care one bit about any of them.



A lot of people are to blame for Iraq
- Cheney is to blame, the CIA is to blame, Rumsfeld, you can blame the Pentagon and their reports, Saddam himself....I think its easier for you people to single out a guy like Bush and pin everything on him because it makes things easy to understand for some of you political people

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Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:39 PM

"Perverted Japanophile FREMDFIRMA still acting like an anti-semitic motherfucker in this thread"

Hello,

I just saw that someone changed the subject line to this.

Fuck you in the neck.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:56 PM

happens all the time man, a thread title 4 posts below reads

' Participant still a racist insane asshole! '


How nice


Anyway getting back on topic

I hope the punk gets what he deserves. Respect to those who serve, RIP to the fallen and a speedy recover to those injured in this attack

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Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:14 PM


Awww, he threw a ragefest for me and I missed it ?


I'm touched, really...

-F

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