V: Beastiality in scifi -- is it ethical? Or legal?
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UPDATED: Thursday, November 26, 2009 02:28
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Visitor Laura Vandervoort (Lisa) stripped for her manboy in episode 3.
Ratings needed a boost.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(2009_TV_series)
We can see where this is going.
This plotline tends to kill the suspension of disbelief for me. And it's uber sleazy.
Though with GMO spidergoats, glowmonkeys and HIVcorn, the reproductive possibility is now Real World.
www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/Genetics%20Nightmare/sp
ider_goats.htm
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2451866/Monkeys-that-glow-in-the-da
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www.newscientist.com/article/dn2161-edible-hiv-vaccine-breakthrough.ht
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Discuss amongst yourselves.
www.vintagepbks.com/sleazesfcovers.html
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Technically, I'm not sure if it's beastiality if the other species is sentient and consenting. I think it's a whole 'nother can of worms entirely.
Still, your point about "sleaze" is well taken. That's why I don't watch much television, I was raised with a strong sense of humility and propriety. All of the panting and moaning in a faked sex scene, you can't even SEE my comfort zone from here.
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That's as perplexing a question as another age old saw.
"Do catgirls count as furries ?"
Seriously though, you want a more disturbing take on the idea: Galaxy Quest...
"now that's just wrong!"
meh heh heh.
-F
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Most of the furry verse seems to say yes. Of course, there also seems to be different levels of furry and cat-girl within the cat-girl genre.
But it's rule 34 and rule 36 of the internet. If a girl puts on even just a cat-ear headband and pins a tail to their jeans, someone somewhere's gonna be lusting over them.
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BYTEMITE is right. It's not even remotely bestiality.
The golden rule of modern sexuality is consent. You can argue about the advisability of, and social consequences of, promiscuity, pre-marital sex, adultery, polygamy, serial monogamy, polyandry, orgies, S&M, pornography, furries, ad nauseum -- but as long as they are consensual, they are not immoral.
Children can not consent. Animals can not consent. That's why these things are always immoral. (Work subordinates and prostitutes sometimes are not free to withhold consent. That's why these things are sometimes immoral.)
Some people who oppose equal rights for gays do not understand this principle. They conflate homosexuality with bestiality and other crimes because the Bible does so. But consent is the key.
Furthermore, in many primate species and especially in humans, sex serves more than a reproductive purpose. It has a powerful social purpose.
In reality, even a humanoid alien species like the Visitors (or Vulcans or Zentradi or the Starman) couldn't produce any kind of hybrid offspring. But the two species could, and maybe even would, engage in sexual activity as a form of social bonding.
By the way, Mark Wahlberg and Helena Bonham Carter in Planet of the Apes wouldn't be bestiality either. Nor would sex between a human an an Uplifted Chimp from David Brin's books, as long as their social standings were equal.
If an alien looked like Laura Vandervoort, I'd be there. (It's important to note, however, that the Visitor Lisa does not look like Laura Vandervoort. She is deceiving Logan, therefore he can not consent.)
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For a female perspective:
How about human/vampire? I'm not talking the sickening whinning and longing of Twilight but one of the hottest and emotional scenes was when Sookie (Anna Paquin) Stackhouse lost her virginity to Bill Compton (the vampire-Stephen Moyer)in Season 1 of rue Blood.
But then, the actors are engaged and living together in real life.
And Bill is so much hotter than Eric Whatshisname (the 6 foot 5 inch blond Viking vampire that most female viewers go for)
http://fireflyfaninnc.livejournal.com/
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How about human/vampire?
That's not inter-species. It's Necrophilia. (But unlike regular corpses, a vampire can consent!)
http://www.idesignyoureyes.com
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Not having seen the episode, I would guess the alien deceived the Earthman. So not consensual. But since the aliens consider themselves above our human laws, I guess there is no governing body that can do anything about it.
http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler
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Thank you to everyone who spelled the topic correctly.
I think the consenting part is the key. I'm not sure I'd find myself irresistibly drawn to a known alien (actually I'm pretty sure I wouldn't), but there always people who find the exotic/strange/different amazingly arousing.
I still don't understand how someone could look at a non-sentient species and think "Hubba, hubba, I gotta get me some of that!"
PS: In the original series there were twin girls born. One had a forked tongue. I remember this clearly, so the "sleaze" goes back over two decades to the 80s!
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