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Race, and politics

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WULFENSTAR

Monday, November 16, 2009 8:33 PM

"I agree that each party attacks the other party in power with everything to hand. But I think what we've seen lately is on a higher level of ugliness, and I think both coming off eight years of Dumbya AND racism contribute largely to it."

Yep, the old standby of hippie-libs.

"Don't like what we are about? YOU. RACIST!"

lol

It still amazes me that noone has called the libs on how racist THEY are.

RIVERLOVE

Monday, November 16, 2009 9:01 PM

I saw a forum consisting of all Black people. They were businessmen, lawyers, doctors, factory workers, and many other backgrounds. Many questions were put to them by the moderator, and they responded with both praise & criticism of Obama.

So, are Blacks that are critical of Obama racists? Well? Oh lemme guess; they're Uncle Toms like Condi Rice & Powell were, right? If Blacks show up at Tea Parties, are they redneck racists, just without the red neck?

Obama's campaign (w/ his supportive media) called Bill Clinton AND Geraldine Ferraro racists during the Dem Primaries last year. Enough is enough with the racism bs.

WULFENSTAR

Monday, November 16, 2009 9:05 PM

http://campbellbrown.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/13/commentary-world-of-blac
k-republicans/

"Enough is enough with the racism bs."

AMEN.

P.S. Im not endorsing Republicans, btw. Just against the idea that because you are black, you HAVE to vote Democratic, or believe in their ideas.

NIKI2

Monday, November 16, 2009 9:44 PM

Oh, DO knock it off with the old "hippie libs" bullshit. It was never viable in the first place, and it's gotten very old.

I said the current ugliness was CONTRIBUTED TO by both coming off Dumbya's insanity and racism...which of course you choose to ignore completely, typically.

I also didn't say racism was the only reason Obama has detractors, and that it was stupid to cry racism over everything, which you also choose to ignore completely, typically.

The fact remains that race, like religion, is easier to incite to violence than philosophy or politics alone. And I maintain that what we have seen this past year IS worse than previous years--the tea-party nastiness, the town-hall disruptions, the ugliness portrayed by the McCain campaign, Faux News, placards, politicians, etc. are worse than I've ever seen. What Bush and Clinton received doesn't hold a candle.

You will deny that and can argue it all you want; I'm old enough to have lived through sufficient administrations to make up my own mind and decide from what I see on the news, what I read and hear. Has nothing to do with having been a hippie OR a lib (the former of which I no longer am and the latter of which I have NOT been at times).

You need new material.

WULFENSTAR

Monday, November 16, 2009 11:34 PM

*sniff

Can't we all just get along....

KWICKO

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:28 AM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

Yep, the old standby of hippie-libs.

The fact that this is all you have to bring to the debate tells me everything I need to know about you. You, who are so into NOT grouping people by stereotype (yeah right!), are going to lump all the "hippie-libs" into a pile based on nothing of substance, and only the most general of stereotypes.

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It still amazes me that noone has called the libs on how racist THEY are.

Maybe you can explain to us all how racist "the libs" are, then, since you seem to know all about how "hippie-libs" think and believe. Go ahead. Be specific and get detailed. I'll wait.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

OPPYH

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
On the original topic, I agree mostly. But I think racism is very alive and well in America today, and IS a large part of the reason things have become so very ugly recently.

Ok, to a point. Racism does exist, but I feel it's the super rich "whitey" neighborhoods, and the worst of the deep south rednecks(including the pathetic Klan members who practically keep racism alive just by existing). If I had to give a guess at numbers, I'd say maybe 98% of America is quite comfortable with all races, and are taking great strides to co-exist. African Americans may never fully "trust" white people, but our relationship is getting stronger, and that is the key.

As far as the president Obama in the next 8 years(I'm certain he will run another term) I bet you racism will come in to play whether it be in word, or action. And I tell you I won't want to be living in America at that time.

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:58 PM

Um... The Ku Klux Klan doesn't exist only in the South. There's actually a fairly strong branch I'm aware of in Oregon, which is otherwise a very left-leaning state.

I'm reasonably sure that its membership tends to be among poorer Americans, and that only the leadership has any sort of money or influence.

I'm also equally sure that when I went to highschool, I had a black principal, and that every now and then, someone would spraypaint racial slurs about him. While that can't exactly be called racism, because he wasn't denied any opportunities by those offensive remarks, there is clearly a perspective that the responsible students are going to be taking into their careers. You don't think that might influence hiring practices if these students ever rose up to management positions wherever they're hired?

Racism and reverse racism both exist. It's pointless to argue that they don't, or that they are limited. Both are pervasive and very real problems.

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:46 PM

Modern racism is no longer about hurting or insulting. These days it is used almost exclusively as a weapon to destroy or attempt to destroy a person or organization's reputation. It seems the biggest racists today are Blacks and liberals. Liberal political correctness has put everyone who isn't a white Christian male into a special victim's category. Dare ye tresspass into that area and you will certainly get accused and besmirched. Some even go as far as stating that if you disagree with Obama on anything you are a racist. And liberal mouthpieces like Olbermann, Mahr & Garafalo blame Obama's failed policies, his plummeting poll numbers, and general ineptitude on....racism, of course. How handy to have that around! Now Obama himself is too clever to jump on that theme, and he doesn't have to. He simply blames Bush for everything. The whole lot of them are despicable. It's like they have a little checklist....oooh that's racist....oh that's ok...oooh another racist, well he's a Dem, so ok....yep racist... no not racist...on and on 24 hours a day. Thank God we have people who can label others for us.

WULFENSTAR

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:49 PM

"Maybe you can explain to us all how racist "the libs" are, then, since you seem to know all about how "hippie-libs" think and believe. Go ahead. Be specific and get detailed. I'll wait.

Mike"

Have fun reading.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?catid=162&type=issue

http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/cramer.racism.html

ETA:

http://www.stanfordalumni.org/news/magazine/1996/sepoct/articles/again
st.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/dear_white_liberal_america.html