Define *Free Speech* if you can...
POSTED BY: pizmobeach
UPDATED: Friday, February 20, 2026 19:33
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"Ask PirateNews what free speech is. He apparently thinks his free speech rights extend to being able to kill Obama supporters for exercising THEIR free speech rights."
Saw that in the other thread about Lou the Boob - that's a mite unsettling. I might have to exercise my right to Freedom From Speech. 
Edited for clarity.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:Quote:
Originally posted by perfessergee:
My point is that if you're not willing to defend the rights of speech of those whose ideas you absolutely despise, you got nothin'. Nothin' at all.
I make a point of it, and said exactly as much regarding that jackass Phelps, or whatever his name was...
But lemme take that a bit further up - not just the right of free speech, but ALL human rights, not just those of one color, creed, sex or belief, cause by doing that you are unwittingly emulating the very oppression that such actions often occur in response to, and it's why those who concentrate on a single right, or rights for a single segement, get short shrift from me.
Unless one stands for ALL human rights, for ALL humans, then they're just feeding the cycle.
-Frem
There always has to be a price.
Amen, brother. You said it better than me. All rights for all people, including the ignorant, deluded and authoritarian. Otherwise you really got nothin'.
perfessergee
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Ahhh, that's where it gets tricky! I'm quite willing to defend the rights you mentioned. It's not the IDEAS I absolutely abhor and which offend me so deeply, it's the LYING to back up their ideas; it's the illegitimate "facts" used to support their agenda.
My point is that if you're not willing to defend the rights of speech of those whose ideas you absolutely despise, you got nothin'.
I have nothing against ideas; I even have nothing against ClusterFox expressing their opinions which I abhor; I have a LOT against them putting forth fakes, saying things are fact which patently aren't true and then doing the "oh, poor us" bit when called to task as not being a legitimate news source. That's what bugs me. If I don't like the ideas/opinions, I don't have to watch; I don't have to watch the faking and lies, either (and I don't); but the calumny of putting forth crocks of shit as fact, which their audience accepts as such and by which they allow their opinions to be formed, makes me want to, well...
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Niki:
As I heard it said best,
Everyone's entitled to their own opinions. They're not entitled to their own facts.
Apparently nobody at FauxNews has ever heard that.
Mike
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- Oscar Wilde
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Good one...do they UNDERSTAND the definition of "facts" over at ClusterFox? Somehow I got the impression they didn't...maybe we should send it to them?
Per Mirriam Webster:Quote:
Then again, if you take just the last one, "presented" as having objective reality; maybe that's the only one they've read...?
1. The quality of being actual : ACTUALITY *a question of fact hinges on evidence*.
2. a. Something that has actual existence *space exploration is now a fact* b : an actual occurrence *prove the fact of damage*.
3. A piece of information presented as having objective reality.
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
"Free Speech" - what does it mean to you?
What are the limits - any? Is hate speech protected under the umbrella of Free Speech? How about speech designed to insight violence, cause harm? Can a group/society set up boundaries and be trusted to know what those are? Do we really have free speech in ANY country?
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Good topic since Musk said he was buying X to protect free speech, and then started blocking people for not liking him. That and other things. Like his using X to push lies.
T
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Elon buying Twitter might have saved the country.
It's how the Truth broke down the lying Media Machine.
It's how Democrats have a 30% approval in 2025 that is continuing to sink like a rock.
It's exposed Democrats for their complete inability to ever speak from the heart and why everything they ever do or say is highly scripted.
It's exposed the fact that Democrats can only do or say things that are highly scripted because outside of an extremely controlled environment nothing that they do or say stands up against any scrutiny, investigations or even common sense.
Elon buying Twitter might have been the thing that allowed the Democratic Party to finally destroy itself.
Thanks Elon.
Here's hoping you're not one of the bad guys too.
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