noob: I can't believe I'm in love with a TV show.

POSTED BY: JCKnife
UPDATED: Thursday, July 1, 2004 21:03
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JCKNIFE

Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:22 PM

Gosh, it's not really a matter of opinion that guns are dangerous--that's a fact!

So are cars, buckets of water, high-school football...all of these things kill more kids than guns.

"it's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think."

CLEANER

Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JCKnife:
"it's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think."

Absolute Gold

ZARK1976

Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JCKnife:
Gosh, it's not really a matter of opinion that guns are dangerous--that's a fact!

So are cars, buckets of water, high-school football...all of these things kill more kids than guns.

"it's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think."

Perfect use of the quote JCKnife. I was surprised to learn that this show reared its head on a gun enthusiast's chat board. I guess it goes to show that people are multi faceted, there isn't just pro-gun anti sci-fi, or pro sci-fi anti gun. There's a wide mix. My feeling has always been, if you're enough of an enthusiast about one thing, it's likely that you will more likely have big enthusiasms about other things. Just because someone carries a gun and likes talking about them, does not mean that they won't enjoy geeking out about a SCi-Fi TV series. I think it's great, diversity is the true constant in people.

It's great to have you join us.

"Could be he's harboring some resentment at us for putting his man through our engine."

BARNSTORMER

Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:08 PM

I know what you mean Jcknife.

Welcome to the club.

Best part about it is that we don't have to just sit around and "Winge" (sp) about it being cancelled so soon in its tender year(s) cause we got a shiny new movie to look forward to in less than a year

HeeHee

Am I a Lion?... No, I think I'ma tellin' the truth.

BarnStormer

BARNSTORMER

Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:40 PM

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Originally posted by rklenseth:
Welcome fellow Browncoat to our ranks!

You better watch it though. There are quite a few liberal Browncoats around these parts that like to put up a fight. I'm not one of them but be forewarned.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

Agreed!!
It can get to be a dark and dirty world when you venture into the political type threads

Beware... there be monsters

Am I a Lion?... No, I think I'ma tellin' the truth.

BarnStormer

SIGNYM

Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:40 PM

I couldn't believe I fell in love with a TV show either! I'm like you... Sienfeld who? What and the City? The last TV show I watched w/ semi-regularity was the first couple of years of ER. Before that... um, MASH maybe. And before that, the ORIGINAL Star Trek. Yeah, I'm THAT old!

My SO kept trying to interest me in FF. I drifted through the livingroom for a couple of shows, then got hooked by Out of Gas. The spent the NEXT episodes watching and kicking myself for having missed the first shows! When word of the DVD came out, all I could think of was "THANK YOU JESUS!" And I'm not even religious!

So- howdy!

MEDUSA

Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:09 PM

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Originally posted by JCKnife:
Gosh, it's not really a matter of opinion that guns are dangerous--that's a fact!
"it's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think."

Good point. But that leads to the conclusion: People who own them and use (or misuse!)them are dangerous. And that's not very comforting, is it.

The woods are the only place I can see a clear path.

MEDUSA

Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JCKnife:
Gosh, it's not really a matter of opinion that guns are dangerous--that's a fact!
"it's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think."

Good point. But that leads to the conclusion: People who own them and use (or misuse!)them are dangerous. And that's not very comforting, is it.

The woods are the only place I can see a clear path.

JCKNIFE

Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:19 PM

Those people certainly CAN be dangerous. What is required is a thorough understanding of the rules and an utmost respect for them. I think you'll find that 98% of gun enthusiasts have those things, and 98% of criminals do not. So in the end, it's criminals who are dangerous, which is a given.

"Every well-bred petty crook knows--the small concealable weapons always go to the far left of the place setting."

GUNHAND

Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by Medusa:
Quote:
Originally posted by JCKnife:
Gosh, it's not really a matter of opinion that guns are dangerous--that's a fact!
"it's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think."

Good point. But that leads to the conclusion: People who own them and use (or misuse!)them are dangerous. And that's not very comforting, is it.

The woods are the only place I can see a clear path.

Okay I have to take a little bit of umbrage at the "people who own them and use them are dangerous" part. The misuse I can agree with you on, 100% just like I'd agree that anyone who misuses a car, alcohol or a wood chipper is probably dangerous.

But my job requires me to carry them, and occasionally to use them. Guns are very much a tool, just like anything else. If you run around like an idiot with them then you're as irresponsible as someone who runs around with scissors or a chainsaw. The idiocy factor being the dangerous bit not the thing used to inflict the idiocy.

I'm a cowboy, yeah they really do still exist, and I work on a ranch in the middle of nowhere which is within spitting distance of the Mexican border. Not having firearms in that situation is irresponsible and dangerous. The closest police are over a half hour away and there is all manner of wildlife that just loves the taste of horseflesh (and peopleflesh in some instances) running about. If a Javilina goes all sorts of soft in the brainpan and is going after one of our prize Arabians yelling at him ain't gonna cut it. Not to mention coyotes, about 6 types of rattlesnakes, mountain lions, the occasional bear (whodathunkit?), packs of wild dogs people dump in the desert, etc. etc.

I have guns, I have to. Sometimes I even have to use them, in fact I've had to use them more often than I thought I would when I took the job at the place. But I don't consider myself dangerous. What I do consider dangerous are people who make sweeping assumptions about people who do have need to carry and/or use guns. Not everyone lives in a nice and tidy well policed and shiny city, some of us live in what is still in a lot of ways the Wild, Wild West.

I'm against people using guns irresponsibly, anyone who's not off their nut isn't. But a lot of these blanket "no one should have guns" (I know you didn't go that far yet but it's not a far leap) statements get my dander up a little. I know where I live if none of us were allowed to have guns we wouldn't be able to survive. Not talking not survive as in not making a good living, I mean not survive as in corpsified if worse comes to worst. It's just the way things are.

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

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