Betrayal in "Ariel"
POSTED BY: Evans
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 18:54
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Haven't seen the episode yet (time is 3:47pm local). TV Guide, other blurb suppliers say there is a betrayal. Herc speculates there will be only eight regulars after this ep.
My musing: Early Web listinigs for Adam Baldwin said he was penned in only for the first ____ (don't remember) episodes. Can Jayne be the betrayer??? Seemd impossible, huh, unless the Alliance offers drop-dead money.
m.
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I really don't know...I don't think it'll be Jayne. I think it'll be someone nobody expects. Jayne's too easy. Everyone knows that he and Simon have a bit of tension between them (read into that what you will).
My random guess is...
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Ack, i give up. I'll say who it was afterwards (probably in hissy-fit form).
~S.
You can't take the sky from me.
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I can't remember, but I think Baldwin originally signed up for eight episodes. Interesting thing is, I think Jaynes' popularity with the fans no longer makes him a prime candidate to get killed off.
The other possibility is Book.
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Ok, it's Jayne or Book ... maybe. My thirty cents is on Jayne. If I'm right, you buy me a 30-cent cup of let's-call-it-coffee-product from the vending machine, and drink it. If I'm wrong, I'll buy my own l-c-i-c-p and consume it in your honor.
Meanwhile. Who is the LEAST likely to be the betrayer?
River. Well, she might screw up due to insanity.
Inara. She might be persuaded, if she thought it would save someone's life.
Simon, out of bumblingness or desire to save his sister.
Kaylee, Zoe, Mal. Least likely. Can't even dream up reasons.
m.
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SPOILERS FOR ARIAL
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Well, I just watched the episode and beieve it or not, it was Jayne! I was actually shocked and disappointed that he'd betray the crew like that and almost get them all killed.
He called the feds during the heist and nearly got everyone killed and as punishment, Mal locked him in a hanger bay and started slowly opening the door saying that he'd pay for what he'd done. He didn't kill him, never thought Mal would, just not him, but by episode's end, Mal left Jayne in the hanger bay to think about what he'd done. I was so shocked that Jayne would try something this stupid, but he will ultimately pay when he no longer has the trust of the crew.
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So now that it's been shown, the mystery is...
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Why did Jayne UN-betray them? When he saw how responsible the Alliance was for the situation, did we see that there's something he dislikes more than he likes money?
Anyway, I was hoping for a two-parter or more with the siblings left behind at the end of the episode. But at least their escape wasn't made to look too easy.
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HOLY ___
SWEET MOTHER OF PEARL
THAT FREAKED ME OUT
:biggrin says it all
If you haven't seen ariel yet, sit tight
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I couldn't beleive Jayne actually ratted out Simon and River.
I really thought the FEDs would get Simon and/or River. It was cool though
I also was TOTALLY suprised when Mal locked out Jayne and threatend to kill him. I hasn't sure if Mal would let him back in
mabey now Jayne'll keep his mouth shut
Execllent episode
I was afraid at the start that it wouldn't develop well since it was the second episode in a row that had a large portion devoted to River and Simon. But it went really well.
i liked how Rivers emotions are beoming more normal. Not as old grampaish and more disturbed person
Easily the best episode yet
WELL DONE
Fox exec who cancelled firefly
:stupid
I need a good quote
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Well....
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Jayne betrays the Tam's because he is the classic merc and wants money. He "un-betrays" as was so eloquently put for two reasons... A. in my opinion, he realized what REALLY is wrong with River (feels every emotion, and can't block any out) B. The "gorram" feds didn't even pay him but had the brass nerve to arrest him as well for aiding and abetting the fugitives. If I was in Jayne's position I'd be mad too. Just like to say, I like Jayne's scuffle and I'm surprised at Simon's nerve.
That's all! I think Ariel was a great episode
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I don't think the rest of the crew will find out what Jayne did. I don't think Mal will tell them, because he knows Jayne would lose their trust, and that wouldn't be in the best interest of anyone.
I never thought Jayne was above selling anyone out. On most TV shows, it wouldn't be unusual for a character like Jayne to develop a "soft-spot" for someone like River, but Joss Whedon seems to prefer to keep his characters truer to their nature. Over time, perhaps. But Jayne's not going to start going soft in episode eight.
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Originally posted by Doug:
I don't think the rest of the crew will find out what Jayne did. I don't think Mal will tell them, because he knows Jayne would lose their trust, and that wouldn't be in the best interest of anyone.
Oddly enough, I think River already knows about the betrayl. The way she was glaring at Jayne the entire time and the fact that she's well... psychic make it almost certain that River knows. AND River doesn't seem to like Jayne too much for some reason...
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