Am I the only one in these parts that thinks Spider-man 3 was a good flick?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, November 2, 2009 22:53
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OPPYH

Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:52 PM

Ok, it wasn't that bad. It felt rushed(Too much to tie up in the last half hour) and that to me threw everything out of wack. It wasn't up to par with the second one, and that is the other reason I condemned it initially. But to be honest it is a good popcorn movie. Just enjoy the action, and sounds and relax. On Blu-Ray it is pretty phenomenal(but I don't own it). Top of the list of mediocre Marvel movies. Far ahead of X3, Wolverine, and Blade 3.

But if you ever start a thread stating Transformers 2 was a good flick were gonna have words.

SINGATE

Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Venom HAD to be killed, & Edward Brock Jr. showed his true colours in the end basically getting himself killed at the same time; good widdance to bad wubbish.

I get why he had to be killed withing the framework of the movie. My whole problem was how the movie butchered the comic story arc involving Peter and the transference of the symbiote to Eddie. This film ripped the Venom character to pieces.

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CHRISISALL

Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:30 PM

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My whole problem was how the movie butchered the comic story arc involving Peter and the transference of the symbiote to Eddie. This film ripped the Venom character to pieces.

What??? If *I* can get past not using Gwen in the FIRST movie, that seems like small potatos in the overall scope of things. What about the common fabric in Spidey's costume? Can a nerd from Queens make a movie quality 3D costume? The rounded eyes on the costume? Pete's BROWN eyes???

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:32 PM

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It wasn't up to par with the second one

Please, tell me WTF was so good about #2. Alfed Molina is a good actor? JJJ goofing around in Spidey's costume? "This is really heavy."? < that WAS good...

The laughing Chrisisall

OPPYH

Sunday, October 25, 2009 9:42 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Please, tell me WTF was so good about #2. Alfed Molina is a good actor? JJJ goofing around in Spidey's costume? "This is really heavy."? < that WAS good...

Sorry you didn't like it. To me, it captured what I loved reading the comic books(many years ago) perfectly.
1. The woes of being Peter Parker

2. Spiderman reaches his absolute limit by stopping the train. Overcoming a task that is near impossible for SPidey always made for a good read.

3 Molina was the perfect choice for Doc Ock.

4. The story didn't feel rushed, and played out perfectly.

5. Aunt May in trouble with a super villain....come on, if that isn't right from the pages of classic Spiderman then I don't know what is.

6. The battle between Doc Ock, and Spidey

7. Spiderman loses his power for a spell.

Add it up, and it's so close to the early issues of Spidey that it actually feels like you're reading the comic book.

For me, that makes a pretty darn good comic book movie.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

Add it up, and it's so close to the early issues of Spidey that it actually feels like you're reading the comic book.

For me, that makes a pretty darn good comic book movie.

Raimi is about my age, so yeah, it's all right out of issues 40 - 100.

I just felt it coulda been better if Doc Ock was a BAD guy. And Peter walking past that dude that needed help was an obvious emotional manipulation of the audience that was incompatible with Parker's psychological makeup. He wasn't there for Uncle Ben, so he'd never let someone face physical danger if the situation presented itself like that, costume or no.
That said, I really like the movie anyway, mostly for the reasons you stated.
But since #3 is like two movies shoehorned into one 2-hr timeframe, I guess I like it about twice as much.

The laughing Chrisisall

OPPYH

Monday, October 26, 2009 6:28 AM

I've read every issue of Amazing Spiderman(Thank you Marvel Tales) from Amazing Fantasy 15 through issue #350.

I agree that the issues in the 100's were just frikking awesome. Peter gets his own apartment(with skylight) and there just a sense of freedom that I loved reading. Peter on his own, and learning the ropes of life. Moving out of Aunt May's house was the biggest dramatic change in Spidey ever.
Not even getting married to MJ(mistake) was as profound.

Lyn Wein was the absolute best writer for spiderman.

DEWRASTLER

Monday, October 26, 2009 6:37 AM

I'll tell you my problems with Spidey 3

1) Sandman. Sandman is a thug IMHO. There really shouldn't be a whole lot of depths to him. Everything they did with his daughter was not necessary. Just make him a bad guy, not a sympathetic bad guy. And the whole part with (and I'll put this in spoilers cause a few of you haven't seen the movie yet)

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being the actual killer of Uncle Ben, and it was an accident to boot

is just plain wrong. No other way to put it. He shouldn't of even been in the movie.
2) Gwen Stacy. If you're not going to have her in the first movie as Peter's original girlfriend, then just ignore her like the cartoons and let's move on. Again, another character who shouldn't have been in the movie.

Things I didn't mind. The changing of Venom's story. I've read/seen so many it didn't bother me. They're all different. The original comics, the cartoon, the Ultimate comics. Since the movies are their own canon, and the original comic story was a way too complex and out there, I'll accept this.

Personally, I thought the this movie should have been solely about Peter and Harry. That's what the other two movies have been building up to. No other villains necessary.

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LWAVES

Monday, October 26, 2009 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Please, tell me WTF was so good about #2. Alfed Molina is a good actor? JJJ goofing around in Spidey's costume? "This is really heavy."? < that WAS good...

Sorry you didn't like it. To me, it captured what I loved reading the comic books(many years ago) perfectly.
1. The woes of being Peter Parker

2. Spiderman reaches his absolute limit by stopping the train. Overcoming a task that is near impossible for SPidey always made for a good read.

3 Molina was the perfect choice for Doc Ock.

4. The story didn't feel rushed, and played out perfectly.

5. Aunt May in trouble with a super villain....come on, if that isn't right from the pages of classic Spiderman then I don't know what is.

6. The battle between Doc Ock, and Spidey

7. Spiderman loses his power for a spell.

Add it up, and it's so close to the early issues of Spidey that it actually feels like you're reading the comic book.

For me, that makes a pretty darn good comic book movie.

I absolutely and completely agree with this, although I never read the comics so I can't compare it to them, but every point you make is spot on IMO.
The one thing I didn't really like in Spidey 2 was on the train when Peter is out and Doc Ock comes to get him but the passengers stand in the way saying that he'll have to go through them first. It just seemed a little too much of a post 9/11, 'we stick together' moment. A little too corny. Maybe it's because I'm a Johnny Foreigner and you have to be American to really get the sentiment. Or maybe it is just the movie trying to play on feelings for it's own use.

So I really liked Spidey 2, Spidey 1 is still better but 2 is a great sequel.

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THESOMNAMBULIST

Monday, October 26, 2009 11:35 AM

Originally posted by chrisisall:

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I loved the dark aspect, the angry need for revenge, the forgiveness for bad timing & placement, and the sacrifice of a true friend...

Chris ol' buddy.

Thing with the Spiderman films - they are the exact same damn plot every film. It's incredibly tedious! I almost put my boot through the TV when poor old Uncle Ben?! Is it...? Is yet again ressurected, only this time from a different angle, to be killed off by yet another hood?! It's frikkin preposterous. Every film we have to go through Pete's anguish at losing his uncle - It's down right lazy film-making.
I'm a huge fan of Sam Raimi (Loved Darkman y'see). But he has either sold his soul to the 'forked one' or he is unable to insist his direction beyond that of the execs financial objectives.

Best thing about Spiderman three - the very artwork you just posted.

That said. If you love it, then let no-one (myself included) spoil your enjoyment of it. Your celebration of it is as legit as anyone's disliking of it.

Peace good buddy.

Ric

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