Learned something today.
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UPDATED: Friday, October 23, 2009 19:35
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You mean bashing Castle because it's not "real" enough? That's lame. The cheese factor *is* part of the fun :P
Exactly what I mean. If they want a crime-solving series that takes itself seriously, they can tune into CSI or similar.
Also complaints about it looking "cheap" or "low-budget" which to me really mean the same thing.
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@ Storymark: I like camp, myself, it's police/crime that I'm not overly big on. If it weren't for Nathan, I probably wouldn't be watching either. But I am enjoying it. :)
I'll concede that it is possible to go overboard on camp. Like that ghastly Batman and Robin movie.
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Castle I like, but really, just because of Nathan. Anyone else were the star, I doubt I'd watch.
I don't think the show would work with someone else. Because it is campy, and silly, but Nathan as Castle is funny and endearing and just so enjoyable to watch. Does anyone else feel like it's really just "The Nathan Fillion Show" ? It seems like they are all having so much fun. That makes it fun to watch.
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Castle I like, but really, just because of Nathan. Anyone else were the star, I doubt I'd watch.
I don't think the show would work with someone else.
I don't know about that. It just seems that way because he's done so well in the role. But I've never been the type top think any role is playable by just one actor.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Also complaints about it looking "cheap" or "low-budget" which to me really mean the same thing.
They can be the same thing, but I've also seen low budget shows that look like they had more, and high budget shows that look somewhat cheap. It's all about making the most of what you have.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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ok I'm a little lost on the meaning of "camp" ><;; (I tried looking it up). I agree on the Nathan bit, though. It just wouldn't be Castle without him.
On a more exciting note, can anyone not wait for next week's episode? Rick in Browncoat attire, hell yeah. 
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On camp: ever seen the 1960's Batman tv series?
Yeah. That pretty much defines over-the-top camp in the modern times. Some series do camp unintentionally but are appreciated for their campy qualities, while other shows intentionally try to camp things up. Camp can be subtle, and it can be overt.
Originally, the term applied to certain over-exaggerated homosexual stereotypes ("camp gay"), but now applies to any over-exaggeration of a quirk, and by extension, over-use of quirkiness and/or humour to the point where quirkiness is the entire subject. Camp is also used to satirize expected social norms.
Camp presents itself "as being committed to the marginal with a commitment greater than the marginal merits.” In other words, a show that doesn't take itself seriously in a genre that normally does is a style of "camp" or "campy," especially if the genre itself is also treated with respect (though possibly not the respect that the original creators intended). Castle is an example of camp because it plays comically with common eye-roll worthy police/crime drama stereotypes while at the same time paying homage to them. It embraces it's quirkiness and logic leaps and even subtly pokes fun at itself for the particularly not believable.
For a number of people, camp is subject to a certain amount of charm.
More detailed explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_(style)
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aha. thank you for the explanation :) meh, who cares, funny cop stereotypes are fun, especially in castle's case :P
(and, you're going to roll your eyes, but no I haven't seen the 60's batman ><;; sorry)
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Ha. Well, you still got what I was trying to say.
Actually, even though most people use Batman (1960) as the definitive camp series, I think it gives the wrong impression of all camp being over the top. Originally, all camp WAS over the top, and had to be to be considered camp, not so anymore.
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meanings do change. What show would define 'camp' now, to replace Batman's meaning? (if you say Castle I will laugh :P)
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