The 2001: A Space Odyssey discussion thread

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, October 24, 2009 22:57
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OPPYH

Sunday, October 18, 2009 6:43 PM

2001 is a fantastic sci-fi film.

However, I feel another scince fiction film also released in 1968 is far superior.
Planet of the Apes.

Planet of the Apes not only eludes to the end of the world, it lets you live, and breathe for a couple hours in that world. 4,000 years after a nuclear war.
A nightmare that proves once and for all that humans
aren't destined to be the rulers of this planet.
The scene where Zeus reads Taylor the 29th scroll(6th verse) still sends chill down my spine(Also note the puzzled look on Taylor's face). And while the final scene is iconic, it's also a cryptic look at the inevitable.

I still enjoy 2001 a great deal though.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, October 18, 2009 6:45 PM

I just got the remastered 2001 (the rental we saw today was the crude 1999 release), so I'm in for an even bigger treat!

After careful consideration, my revised top five SF films of all time list:

Serenity
Blade Runner
Planet Of The Apes
2001: A Space Odyssey
Star Trek The Motion Picture

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Sunday, October 18, 2009 6:49 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

Planet of the Apes.

I sort of count Beneath as "Part II." The social commentary in that is almost as stinging, and the end is so...
final...

The laughing Chrisisall

OPPYH

Sunday, October 18, 2009 6:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

I sort of count Beneath as "Part II." The social commentary in that is almost as stinging, and the end is so...
final...

I think if Chucky Heston would've agreed to be in the entire film it would have been on par with the first one. And yes, "Beneath" is also really good.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:11 PM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I'll admit that things I really enjoy watching don't necessarily end up on a list of the ones I think are the best examples of film as an art form.

Army Of Darkness would be an example for me...

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Sunday, October 18, 2009 8:28 PM

OMGorramG, the transfer on this DVD is ASTOUNDING!!!!! PURE blacks, rich colours!!! This may be the best looking DVD I now own!

Intermission over.

The laughing Chrisisall

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:

Another change from the book is the Discovery going to Jupiter as opposed to Saturn. I'm not sure, but it might have had something to do with Kubrick not being satisfied with the FX for Saturn's rings.

I have a book somewhere on the making of 2001: Kubrick thought that to go to Saturn, they'd have to go to Jupiter first, thus having to design both planets. So since they had to do Jupiter in either case, they did it, then decided that doing Saturn too was a needless expense. Another item from the book: the monolith was in the perfect ratio of 1:4:9 (perfect squares, a sophisticated mathematical statement) and perfect precision measurement. The idea came to Clarke late in the writing process, too late to re-work all the shots.

KWICKO

Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:40 PM

Just added the BluRay version to my Amazon cart. $9.49. Can't pass that up!

TDBROWN

Monday, October 19, 2009 1:02 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Just added the BluRay version to my Amazon cart. $9.49. Can't pass that up!

Wow... Good Deal!

"Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one." -Mal

JONGSSTRAW

Monday, October 19, 2009 12:14 PM

A classic movie, a remarkable vision for all future sci-fi moviemakers. On the negative side, two problems with the movie....there are a couple of extended periods of pure boredom, and it's hard to stay awake. But my biggest problem with 2001 has always been the perceived necessity by Dr. Floyd and the space agency for total secrecy. In his speech on the Moon, Floyd says "Im sure you're all aware of the potential for cultural shock and social disorientation by the facts presented in this current situation" (might not be exact quote, but close).....then later on the Moonbus shuttle, he & fellow astronaut joke when they're staring at a picture of the magnetic field generated by the monolith. Then he says "all we can be sure of is that is was deliberately buried millions of years ago".....Dr. Floyd repeats " deliberately buried!" and brushes off the enormity of that term with a shrug of humble amazement.......WELL HECK, I could brush it off too! I hardly think evidence of extraterrestrial life would cause worldwide panic & chaos as these guys said. What...they're so much more "trained & condiditoned" than I to "handle" mind-blowing things? Bullshit. Average people built all the crap that got them up there in the first place. In 2010 we learn the tragic results that this mis-guided secrecy produced.

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