Okay, who's getting this when it comes out on DVD?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Band of Brothers, for instance - great show, powerful stuff, but it NEEDS the shakiness and jump-cut blurs to keep the tension up. The Shield is another show that comes to mind. Gritty action stuff is NOT what BluRay is best for.

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I don't understand you here. Blu-Ray doesn't eliminate any of the shakiness or grit (unless they go overboard on the noise reduction), nor the jump-cuts or intentional (in-camera) blurriness.

These are all stylistic choices in the shooting and editing, that aren't really effected at all by higher resolution. The film grain may be reduced - but it can also be brought out a lot in the conversion process, depending on how they choose to go about it.

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Originally posted by Storymark:

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Band of Brothers, for instance - great show, powerful stuff, but it NEEDS the shakiness and jump-cut blurs to keep the tension up. The Shield is another show that comes to mind. Gritty action stuff is NOT what BluRay is best for.

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I don't understand you here. Blu-Ray doesn't eliminate any of the shakiness or grit (unless they go overboard on the noise reduction), nor the jump-cuts or intentional (in-camera) blurriness.

These are all stylistic choices in the shooting and editing, that aren't really effected at all by higher resolution. The film grain may be reduced - but it can also be brought out a lot in the conversion process, depending on how they choose to go about it.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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I consider Band Of Brothers on Blu-ray to be one of the most faithful transfers on the market. The grain that you see is deliberately put there by the film makers to give it an older, grittier look. The same goes for the washed out colour scheme that is present throughout pretty much the whole show.
But what gets me is the detail you see in the uniforms, the threads that hold it all together, badges and buttons that look spot on. Dirt under the fingernails and on skin looks completely real, not like it was 'painted' on or placed there. Each cut and bruise can be seen in all the detail that was intended. The buildings stand out and look even more realistic and not like a set.

As for Star Trek it most definitely will look better on Blu-ray than DVD (unless they do a Gladiator style job on it). One of my top two eagerly awaited purchases on Blu-ray, the other one being Up. Disney always do a bang up job with their animations and all the Pixar films look truly fantastic.



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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
I don't dig Blu Ray. I've seen a couple of films on friends Blu Ray systems with the 'Ducks Nuts' sized flat Screen TV's with 5.1 surroundy sound and to me it all looks and feels a little too 'gamey' and weird.

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I've seen stuff on Blu Ray too, and while I like it mostly, I just don't see enough improvement to warrant the cost. To tell ya the truth, if my CRT hadn't started doing the inevitable vertical warping thing, I would have stayed with that for a long time. But now with my 720 26" & upconvert player, I'm like a pig in poo. Lemme do the math...$300 for the LCD, $45 for the player, $20 for the HDMI cable...

$365- that's less than a 1080p LCD all by itself.

Spiderman 3 remains the only REALLY impressive thing I've seen on BR that my system can't nearly equal. But I find that Toby Maguire's skin variances are not of that much real interest to me after all.




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There's your problem, as far as not seeing much difference - the size of your screen. The difference between upscaled DVD and Blu Ray to the human eye is negligible on screens under 35 inches or so, especially at 720p. You can tell a difference if you look closely, but not a lot. To get the full effect, you have to watch on a large screen, 40' or larger, in 1080p - then you'll see a difference.

Granted, that's a pricey proposition, and I don't have the gear for it myself. I have a 42' 720p set, which is getting outdated (bought it used from a friend, probably 5-6 years old now). I watched the latest Fast & Furious on BR on it the other day - and thought it looked pretty damned good. Then, I went to Best Buy, and they were playing the same flick on one of the new LCD screens, at 1080p, and I was blown away at how much better it loked than on my set.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Yeah, size matters. I saw Serenity in BR on a 1080 19" LCD at Buymore, and it honestly looks better on my system at home. If I ever go above a 32" screen, I'd have to get a Blu Ray player for sure. But at 26"- not a biggie.


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Story and LWaves: Good points; I hadn't thought of it that way. And honestly, I haven't seen BoB on BluRay, so it was a gut reaction I had that it wouldn't be improved by the higher resolution.

I suppose it's like with any photography or sound recording: It's always better to start with MORE resolution and clarity, and you can always manipulate it downward from there if need be.

Thanks for pointing that out. I'll probably curse you for it later, because now I'm going to have to look for Bob on sale on BluRay!



CIA: It's funny, but I'm already *anticipating* my 42" 1080 TV dying so I can rationalize something bigger and better... It's a sickness; I'm sure of it. :)

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