Save the Children from the Michelle Malkin!
POSTED BY: AnotherSky
UPDATED: Friday, September 12, 2025 21:25
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I guess you just don't see Democrats as "Americans". Or even as "people". I mean, you say that we can "inflict" our ways...on other nations - but you don't feel that it's right to do the same here at home?
Democrat or Republican, I stand by what I wrote.
The passage you cited was about defending the export of freedom to the world, especially to other cultures.
Your not even comparing apples to oranges. Teaching our kids to sing praises of the President is wrong, making them sing about his policies is wrong. Its the sort of cultish facism that infects North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela.
Those children could have been taught "God Bless America", that would have been fine. They could have sung about how wonderful the country is that it elects its first black President...NOT how wonderful the 'Great Leader' is. Not how he's going to save them, give them health care and jobs and money.
It is at the very heart of the unAmerican. These childen will grow up to be the adults of Detroit who lined up thinking they were getting their "Obama money":
In short I believe that its right to inflict the American values of liberty, law, and Democracy on the world. It is wrong to inflict Democrat/Obama/Republican/Bush values on anyone because our American values demand that we freely choose to support or not to support a particular leader or policy.
This is consistant with the Constitution as well. A State...lets say Ohio...can have any leader it wants, any party it wants, even the same leader or party over and over...but it can't have a dictator or king, the choice is Constitutionally mandated, a codification if you will of American values.
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Quote:Oh, its a reference to Wallace Shawn as Vizzini in Princess Bride
Sig,You keep on using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means...
"But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me....
You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha..."
Vizzini's oft-repeated phrase is "Inconceivable!"
And now, I think I've reduced this thread to the level of importance which is so richly deserves!
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Those children could have been taught "God Bless America", that would have been fine.
Not if they were MY kids, it wouldn't! Talk about "indoctrination". Keep that "god" horseshit out of public schools.
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They could have sung about how wonderful the country is that it elects its first black President...NOT how wonderful the 'Great Leader' is. Not how he's going to save them, give them health care and jobs and money.
I just don't remember you being this outraged when kids were singing the praises of Bush after Katrina. In fact, looking through some old threads, I can't find a single instance of you criticizing them for that. Seems a bit odd.
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Katrina Kids sang to the Bushes:
Our country's stood beside us
People have sent us aid.
Katrina could not stop us,
our hopes will never fade.
Congress, Bush and FEMA
People across our land
Together have come to rebuild us
and we join them hand-in-hand!
Those MONSTERS! How could they!
Damn them to hell. They're probably lined up for their "Bush Money" as we speak!
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/flashback-students-sang-b_n_3
00372.html
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SignyM posted:
And now, I think I've reduced this thread to the level of importance which is so richly deserves!
INCONCEIVABLE!
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Oh, and I s'pose those kids ought to get busy writing some new verses about Obama and his shiny new Nobel Peace Prize, eh?
But Bush still has that guy's shoes that were thrown at him, right? Yeah, that's a cool prize, too, I guess. 
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Originally posted by SignyM:
And now, I think I've reduced this thread to the level of importance which is so richly deserves!
The level of a miracle-peddler's jingle?
I posted this because I think it's serious business, not because I thought the previous Republican admin was great or because I think Obama is the Antichrist.
Brainwashing is serious.
Someone up yonder (apologies for non-quoting in the rest of this, I'm pressed for time) said it's ok that they are (it was mandatory, btw) required to sing this song for a living, policy-making president...."because they don't understand it". That is precisely WHY it's scary to me. Because ten or fifteen years from now, they're going to be voting...without understanding exactly why, except that the man or woman they're voting for is "great".
But my biggest issue is definitely addressing/speaking about the President as the Great Leader, and with manifestly untrue statements, such as all America loves him.
And no one said anything about him being black. The Obama campaign's already said plenty about that.
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Sockpuppet: my apologies, it is good to welcome an actual firefly fan to the 'verse.
It was just that I've seen a lot of the cyberverse kind of sockpuppets (ie fake usernames) floating around lately, and they like to troll in a most cowardly fashion. I wasn't sure you were legitimate(thought you might be one with an ironical turn of mind) right after your first post, and perhaps I was too harsh about it. So, sorry again, and the happy part of that original message was meant sincerely.
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Originally posted by AnotherSky:
I posted this because I think it's serious business, not because I thought the previous Republican admin was great or because I think Obama is the Antichrist.
Brainwashing is serious.
Then you will no doubt stand beside me when I demand that we stop having kids recite The Pledge of Allegiance in schools - ESPECIALLY that "under god" garbage that was added in the 50s. Pure brainwashing and bullshit, you'll agree.
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Someone up yonder (apologies for non-quoting in the rest of this, I'm pressed for time) said it's ok that they are (it was mandatory, btw) required to sing this song for a living, policy-making president...."because they don't understand it". That is precisely WHY it's scary to me. Because ten or fifteen years from now, they're going to be voting...without understanding exactly why, except that the man or woman they're voting for is "great".
And this is exactly why we must STOP trying to teach children that Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, or Reagan were "great" Presidents, or even decent human beings. Right?
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But my biggest issue is definitely addressing/speaking about the President as the Great Leader, and with manifestly untrue statements, such as all America loves him.
I suppose if they spoke about the President as being the leader of a great nation, you'd have a problem with it as well?
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And no one said anything about him being black. The Obama campaign's already said plenty about that.
As have his detractors.
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Oh, its a reference to Wallace Shawn as Vizzini in Princess Bride
"But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me....
You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha..."
Vizzini's oft-repeated phrase is "Inconceivable!"
And now, I think I've reduced this thread to the level of importance which is so richly deserves!
Um, Sig, just a lil tip: when someone(s) make the appropriate response, it probably means "read it, saw the movie, got the t-shirt"
But seriously, I can't believe they left out the line "There's no escape," Buttercup realized. "I'm a dead cookie."
Mike, I think you meant
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Still waitin for someone, anyone, to bother askin the childrens opinion - cause, yanno, as sentient beings they likely have one.
Not that folks care, or half the time even NOTICE.
-F
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