If we spent some of the magical Bail-Out money feeding the hungry peeps of the planet, would making a better world buy us any street cred?

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WULFENSTAR

Thursday, October 1, 2009 2:46 AM

Just as a quick question... and a reminder.

How many of our own people, (Americans) are going to bed hungry tonight?

Just out of curiosity... shouldnt we be taking care of our own FIRST before we try and save the rest?

You don't rush to put out a fire at your neighbors house, when your own is going up in flames.

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, October 1, 2009 3:07 AM

You hunt, Wulf ?

I don't, but till I couldn't physically keep up no more I used to spot game and take bag limit with me, and you know what me and Mick T did with it, well, most of it ?

Fed the local poor, and be damned to the regs - thankfully the local game warden was cool with it though, that coulda been a problem.

Game overpopulation and hunger, solved, and in a way that I don't think would be offensive to you at all, now would it ?

Just some thoughts.

-F

ANTHONYT

Thursday, October 1, 2009 3:56 AM

Please stop the aid?

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,363663,00.html

Hello,

I could not help but feel that this interviewee made some poignant points.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, October 1, 2009 4:06 AM

Frem,

Problem Crisis Solution or whatever you called it. Doesn't it occur as a classic globalist setup up?

Create a famine, then step in with food, be the savior, lifeline, and ultimate controller of policy.

People need food independence.

GINOBIFFARONI

Thursday, October 1, 2009 4:23 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Please stop the aid?

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,363663,00.html

Hello,

I could not help but feel that this interviewee made some poignant points.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

How aid is brought in is always a question,

I seen on TV a program to provide Mosquito Nets in Africa.

Instead of having nets made in here or Europe, the donors had the nets made in Kenya, then distributed across Africa using local freight, and sold at cost to vendors in the country's that needed them at cost, allowing that vendor to add a small profit margin ( part of the arrangement )

So the end result was affordable Mosquito nets in the marketplace, and employment for a bunch of people. The donors set it all up, got it running, and walked away giving the business over to the Kenyans working there.

Bit more of a result than just giving away Mosy nets

ANTHONYT

Thursday, October 1, 2009 4:35 AM

Hello Gino,

That is a far better system. Head and shoulders better than what is usually done.

Of course, it does have one flaw. It puts a lot of people into a non-sustainable business.

Personally, I think a combination of cessation of aid, and extremely low-interest micro-loans to individuals and small businesses is the way to go.

That way the locals can decide what's in demand and go into business meeting that demand, rather than making a 'phantom product' that no one will be able to afford once the aid dies out.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

GINOBIFFARONI

Thursday, October 1, 2009 4:58 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Gino,

That is a far better system. Head and shoulders better than what is usually done.

Of course, it does have one flaw. It puts a lot of people into a non-sustainable business.

Personally, I think a combination of cessation of aid, and extremely low-interest micro-loans to individuals and small businesses is the way to go.

That way the locals can decide what's in demand and go into business meeting that demand, rather than making a 'phantom product' that no one will be able to afford once the aid dies out.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

Mosquito nets are definitely NOT a phantom product in Africa

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071219/malaria_n
ets_071219?s_name=&no_ads=

the trick is to shift from sending in mass produced ones, to ones of local manufacture.

Of course the cost of these cannot compete with mass production, so of course if enough nets are sent in as aid this won't work, on the other hand there has never been enough of this in Africa to protect ALL the population, so if the costs are kept affordable, someone will still buy them.

micro-loans are fine, if you can find people who have the background and talents to start up companys from scratch...

I suspect that is far less than what would be necessary in many areas.

" I don't believe in hypothetical situations - it's kinda like lying to your brain "

" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson

Lets party like its 1939

PIRATECAT

Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:10 AM

Ok now I work 12 an half hour shifts with about 1 hour drive each way due to road construction. Sitting in a company suck meeting listening to the fast track to nowhere community tech flunkies known as Human Resources. On there weekends there out there with there company shirts painting crack houses and picken up needles. Hoo Ray for them. There not doing good but just making themselves feel good. Ok now when they lose paperwork they want me to stay over till they get in to fix there shit. Even though they only work 8 hour days with fridays half a day. Am I missing something. Charity begins at home. Ok first take care of your own people not everybody else. Don't worry about the poe black child worry about your own white chillden. Then go save the world. When people understand that the world is ancient and ruthless. Life is cheap over there. It's not that there backwards it's that were forward. America is a fragile experiment. I know Kansas can feed the world. But those people can't help themselves. I do not believe in the Peace Corp or Catholic Charities. Get rid of the dogma and tyrants then you can move forward. If starving with aids what are you doing trying to get laid and that is Africa.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

ANTHONYT

Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:13 AM

Hello Gino,

By 'phantom product' I mean a product that the people can't buy without the carefully orchestrated assistance.

In other words, if you are selling anything at cost to anyone along the way, you are creating a phantom market. As soon as people can no longer get things 'at cost' then the profit margin either vaporizes or the prices are increased to put the product out of reach. The buyers of the inexpensive net can't afford the profitable net, and so the market dries up. Not because people don't want the product, but because people can no longer afford it.

If people could afford it, and were willing to pay for it, there would be no need to set up the aid to begin with.

An alternative might be providing the local manufacturers in Africa with the technology to produce these things much more cheaply than they can do it now. This accomplishes the same job as selling 'at cost' by reducing expenses, but creates a sustainable venture because everyone is making money and able to afford the end product.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

SOCKPUPPET

Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:27 AM

Whole world hunger situation plain stinks dontcha think? Corporate greed makes bailouts so gets bailouts. Feed the poor with food Americans waste all the time. Heck, just make it shiny sugar for Haliburton, right? Find out who Barry's "handouts" go to and work them into the picture. Fuck politics. People need a food handout? Give them food.

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