If we spent some of the magical Bail-Out money feeding the hungry peeps of the planet, would making a better world buy us any street cred?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, October 8, 2009 03:41
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Heheheheh
you got me wrong Wulf
not a hippie, hippies wouldn't advocate violence.
that said, why do you think people all over the world hate and want Americans dead anyway.
you keep going the way you are, someones gonna burn your country down, and be justified in doing it... I'm only sad for the folk who don't get off using people and don't deserve it.
the rest... well
" I don't believe in hypothetical situations - it's kinda like lying to your brain "
" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson
Lets party like its 1939
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Quote:Thanks, Gino, but I don't want your sadness.
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
I'm only sad for the folk who don't get off using people and don't deserve it.
How about a little room in your home...?
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:That visual is... disturbing. And powderburn-y.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Better 'n some gun nut jacking off with a firearm.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Thanks, Gino, but I don't want your sadness.
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
I'm only sad for the folk who don't get off using people and don't deserve it.
How about a little room in your home...?
The laughing Chrisisall
strange enough I am finishing the basement as we speak... lol
" I don't believe in hypothetical situations - it's kinda like lying to your brain "
" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson
Lets party like its 1939
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Siggy stole a chunka my thunder here cause yeah, it is like a "tax refund" - kind of an insult to take from someone, gnaw the take down to the bone, and then act like throwing it back is some kinda benevolence when not takin from em in the first place woulda been the right thing to do.
But then, there's always a "right thing to do", and on a rare and priceless occasion, it's even legal.
Lemme share with you a quote from somewhere I don't remember that's stuck with me for decades.
"Though silver in your palm weighs light,
Compared to death by fire and sword,
Do not shy the hopeless fight,
Endeavour is it's own reward."
Doin right is kinda like that, it matters not if you are hated for it, bitterly cussed and snarked at for it, even hunted with intent on your destruction for it - It's STILL Right you understand ?
I've caught hell a time even from my own, vicious that I can be, for showing mercy to folks who 'deserved' not a drop of it, soley on seeing SOME spark of humanity within them, however faint.
Really, the folk I have pulled out of their own personal hells, do you think all of em have fond thoughts of me, especially given both my brutality, especially in the early days, and my honesty when they would have very much preferred otherwise ?
Consider how most folk feel about physical therapists (sadistic bastards, ha!) despite the obvious fact that they mean to, and often do, help people ?
So street cred or no cred, we still oughta do it.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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"If we spent some of the magical Bail-Out money feeding the hungry peeps of the planet, would making a better world buy us any street cred?"
Figures - you wanna BUY street cred... tsk tsk... money's always the answer with you Americans! 
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Quote:Eff U Pizmo, I was talkin' about doin' the RIGHT thing (see Frem's post above) because it's something that would REALLY make a better world.
Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Figures - you wanna BUY street cred... tsk tsk... money's always the answer with you Americans!
Oh wait. You were being sarcastic- okay, I can get behind that.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Chris, how are you and your ghost both signed in at the same time?
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If only it were that easy. In lots of the places the hungry peeps are, we'd have to also put in troops to make sure the magical Bail-Out money ended up feeding those hungry peeps instead of ending up in the Swiss bank accounts of various government officials of those countries. Putting troops in might get folks fed for a change, but they would then be deafened by the screams about American Imperialism, so it's looking kind'a no-win.
Some would also say that food aid is not the right approach, but that the agriculture sector of these countries full of hungry peeps should be developed so they don't have to rely on our aid. of course, the same problem with the government officials of those countries skimming the development money obtains.
That being said, the U.S. did provide 49% of world food donations in 2006, the last cite I could quickly find. http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=19253&Cr=China&Cr1=
More recently, the U.S. provided almost half the global contributions to the Word Food Programme for 2009. http://www.wfp.org/about/donors/wfp-donors/2009
Darn us for greedy capitalist pigs.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Teach a man to fish.
Money spend on gmo foods research and food irradiation and transportation, followed with restructuring third world agriculture to reduce vulnerability to political situations, weather, and be less environmentally destructive, and you solve the problem.
The fact of the matter is, most starving populations are not the "third world" but people who are under siege. It's our smarmy proxy armies that are creating the situation. Yes, we should, as a stop gap measure, but we must end those conflicts that are creating the shortage. Then, we must devote our energies to increasing the food output per acre.
For every human, there are three tons of termites. That's an entire earth's population of termites per human. What are they living on? Our excess food supply because of the inefficiency of our farming.
Or we could take the world population of mice, and divide them per human. Were you to get in an SUV with your portion of the world's mice, the entire vehicle would be filled with mice except for that filled by you. Why? Because mice are relatively efficient in their lifestyle, hunter gatherers though they are.
Biofuels need to be kicked in the but, along with anything else that's not wild and is wasting farmland, and we need real production. We're working well under 1% of capacity here. Irradiation is a good answer too: It's cheap, it's effective, and leaves no toxic side effects, unlike pesticides and preservatives. If these techniques could increase our food per acre 100 fold or more, they could do the same for Africa and Asia, and then they wouldn't need a hand out from the US.
No, I'm sorry, I can't care anymore about the US economy, that's like trying to bail out the Titanic. But I do know this:
If the US is the food supplier to Africa, that puts the US in the political position to tell Africa what to do for the rest of eternity. Think about it.
Teach a man to fish.
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