Heh the Captain in Buffy

POSTED BY: Fangoo
UPDATED: Saturday, June 26, 2004 06:41
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FANGOO

Sunday, June 20, 2004 4:30 AM

I'm not a fan of Buffy, Angel or anything but Firefly but sometimes on a Saturday night you take what scifi/fantasy you can get. =)

Anyway I just saw the Captain as an evil Southern preacher in the End of Days Buffy episode. Honestly seeing him as the preacher I can't imagine how he ever transformed his game into the quality he shows in Firefly. ;)

So does Mr. Wedan do a lot of cross casting?

KYAPHAS

Sunday, June 20, 2004 5:04 AM

I am a big fan of all of Joss's work. He picks actor that he feels can get the job done and sticks with them. He may hire an actor for what was going to be a small part and bring them back as a main charactor ex. James Marster as Spike. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that after Firefly was cancelled both Nathan Fillion and Gina Torres both showed up on other Whedon shows as large part charactors. Fillion was also great in the show 2 guy and a girl. I personally like to watch every thing that I can by actors in my favorite shows so that I can understand the range that they have. :)

SLOWSMURF

Sunday, June 20, 2004 5:50 AM

Yes, the appearance on buffy was after firefly was dead and gone.

Gina torres appeared at approximetly the same time(and importance) on Angel. Then in this last season of angel Adam Baldwin(Jayne) appeared for numerous eps.

Also, prior to her work as River, Joss discovered Summer to play the Ballerina in "Waiting in the Wings" in season 3 of angel.

KYAPHAS

Sunday, June 20, 2004 6:54 PM

Ahh,yes. I love to see my favorites again and again. Jonathan M. Woodward (Tracy) was also in many episodes of Angel as Knox and in BTVS also.

SPIKESMORTICIA

Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by Fangoo:
I just saw the Captain as an evil Southern preacher in the End of Days Buffy episode. Honestly seeing him as the preacher I can't imagine how he ever transformed his game into the quality he shows in Firefly. ;)

Actually, I think the Captain as Caleb really showed Nathan's range as an actor. I had never seen Firefly prior to his Buffy role, and I must say that I really did not like Caleb at all.... and therefore kinda carried that over to the actor, UNTIL.... I watched the Firefly DVD's and really fell in love with the Cap'n and realized that he played Caleb to be hated, that was his interpretation of the character, and he did a wonderful job.

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So does Mr. Wedan do a lot of cross casting?

That would be Whedon... or GodJoss to you lesser mortals.
And yes, he does do alot of cross casting. He finds an actor that he loves, or sees as being just perfect for some other role and he uses them again. I love that about him. Actors pop up in the most unusual eps and they fit, just like he knew they would.

Being a hero doesn't mean you succeed in saving the day.... it just means you tried.

RIVERGIRL

Monday, June 21, 2004 1:44 AM

Firefly. ;)

Actually, I think the Captain as Caleb really showed Nathan's range as an actor.

I didnt see Caleb but recently read somewhere Nathan actually auditioned for Angel--sometimes it works out you do NOT get the role

Mal wouldnt be Mal without Nathan

SPIKESMORTICIA

Monday, June 21, 2004 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by rivergirl:
I didnt see Caleb but recently read somewhere Nathan actually auditioned for Angel--sometimes it works out you do NOT get the role

What role did he audition for? Or are you saying that he auditioned for the role of Angel way back when? Either way, it just goes to show that Joss was impressed and certainly kept him in mind. Does anyone know if he auditioned for the role of Mal? And if he did actually audition for the Angel character... wow... what a thought, and what different direction would the character have gone in? Interesting thought.

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Mal wouldnt be Mal without Nathan

Oh, yes, I most wholeheartedly agree with you there. Nathan brings Mal to life. The recent thread where someone asked what different people would be good as the Firefly cast and someone mentioned Marc Blucas as Mal..... gag.

I love the cast as it is and wouldn't change a thing.. but then I hate change, so that's no big surprise...

Being a hero doesn't mean you succeed in saving the day.... it just means you tried.

HEB

Monday, June 21, 2004 1:16 PM

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What role did he audition for? Or are you saying that he auditioned for the role of Angel way back when? Either way, it just goes to show that Joss was impressed and certainly kept him in mind. Does anyone know if he auditioned for the role of Mal?

This is what I heard happened:
When Two Guys and A Girl (which Nathan was in) got cancelled Fox put him on a retainer and said we don't have work for you yet but we'll find you something.

They then set up the meeting for him with Joss and I think Joss liked that he could do goofy comedy and also be the action hero. I don't know whether he then had an audition or screen tests or anything.

Nathan did audition for the role of Angel but he mentioned it to Joss and Joss didn't even remember him. (I think I heard somewhere that he didn't even get as far as reading for Joss).

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And if he did actually audition for the Angel character... wow... what a thought, and what different direction would the character have gone in? Interesting thought..

Yeah it could have changed the whole Buffyverse as we know it. They weren't even sure Angel was going to be a recurring character originally. So it might not have worked out and Angel might not have returned and the Buffyverse might have taken a completely different path in season 2. Or he might have played it darker or lighter and the whole character arc might have changed. We might never have had the Angel spin off. We might have ended up with 'Xander - the series' or something equally horrific. It's interesting to ponder the butterfly effect that changing as seemingly small a thing as one actor with a small part might have had on the entire series.

Well, my sister's a ship... we had a
complicated childhood

CYBERSNARK

Monday, June 21, 2004 2:16 PM

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Originally posted by heb:
We might have ended up with 'Xander - the series' or something equally horrific.

. . .

Did you just diss the Xand-man?

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RIVERGIRL

Monday, June 21, 2004 2:53 PM

Mal wouldnt be Mal without Nathan>>

I think Xpose or Cult tv--one of the Britich Mags--had a whole list of who tried out for various roles ie Kevin Sorbo as Mulder ?

Its kinda of hard to go back and think what a different actor could have brought to the role

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