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Serena Williams- Giant crybaby

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Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:02 PM

No she is not macho, she is a very dignified player

you have confused her with Caster Semenya



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/

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RUE
Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:28 PM

"So now I'm going to get in trouble because I'm going to point out a sad truth: A lot of blacks are in trouble today, not because they're black but because they've grown up in a ghetto culture."

True.

But the dominant culture has no place for roughly 20% of its people - and not just blacks. No jobs, no opportunity, no access to a better life. There is no modifiable reason to change this. SOMEbody MUST get discriminated against as a way to keep the haves having, and the have-nots not-having.

There are better ways to deal with this: you can pull together, share resources, treat each other well. And there are worse ways: you can have a vicious knife-fight where almost everyone gets hurt but a few get really, really (comparatively) well-off.

But until the dominant culture changes, there is no way to change that one basic fact of existence: a large percentage of people are simply throw-aways.

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Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:57 PM

"But the dominant culture has no place for roughly 20% of its people - and not just blacks."

True. But part of the reason that there is no place for this 20% is because they represent the worst of us. White trash, ghetto garbage, it all amounts to the same thing. Pure stupidity, viciousness, and being incapable to function in a culture that doesn't value violence and rashness.

I would argue that there IS a place for it tho. Imagaine if we could harness these survival skills, this passion, and put it to good use?

"There are better ways to deal with this: you can pull together, share resources, treat each other well."

Close. Yes, there are better ways to deal with it. Pull together, treat each other well, and TEACH THOSE WHO CANNOT TO DO FOR THEMSELVES.

Give a man a fish for 30 years, and then his son for another 20... and that family will be unable to fish... and will be reliant upon them that gives the fish. In other words, you create slavery. "Do what I want.. Dance you stupid monkey, or you get no fish."

"But until the dominant culture changes, there is no way to change that one basic fact of existence: a large percentage of people are simply throw-aways."

Not everyone can be saved, but SOME CAN BE. However, some are simply evil and worthless. Its a sad fact of life. There are good people, and bad. Ying and Yang.


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Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:11 PM

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This crew? On a space ship? Yah, we'd kill each other. Serena Williams? Steroids. Just like the men.



Roid Rage and steroids - two things I think of when I just look at Serena (sadly). This outburst was not her first one - she pretty well destroyed one of her rackets earlier in the match. That has been done by how many other women in tennis exactly? Not sure what the WTA does for testing - it'll be interesting to use the Google later to find out.

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RUE
Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:52 PM

"True. But part of the reason that there is no place for this 20% is because they represent the worst of us."

Wrong --- yet again. There is no place for them because in our economic system - NOT EVERYONE CAN MAKE IT.

Your thinking is limited by your hatreds.

You hate 'them' so you want to think 'they' deserve what they got. That they are hateful. In fact, they no more deserve their place in the world than a baby in Africa deserves to die of starvation. It is a systematic problem, not an individual one. IF EVERYONE CAN'T ESCAPE, THEN IT IS TRUE NOT ANYONE CAN.

And keep this in mind: this system does not depend on individual luck and pluck. It depends on large numbers of people having to work jobs for their entire lives that don't pay them the value of their work. And that is a situation from which they (that is, nearly all of us who aren't independently wealthy) will never escape.


"Do what I want.. Dance you stupid monkey, or you get no fish."

That IS our economic system - no ? Work, work, work - however many they want to hire, at whatever jobs they make available, for whatever wages they will give you - that's a businessmans' wet dream. Dance you stupid monkey, make me my profit for the rest of your days, or you will get no fish.


"Not everyone can be saved ..."

Everyone COULD be saved. We just have to stop worshiping capitalism and do things differently.



BTW - it's pretty easy to see where your thoughts come from and go to. You hate - and so you must justify that hate. You must demonize those you hate, in fact whole groups of people - futher, nearly everybody. You must do this not only to justify your hate, but to make you feel special. You only feel good about yourself as long as there is someone you can hate.

Who taught you that ?


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Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:57 PM

I've always hated Kanye West. He went platinum by sampling(READ:stole) A great song from Daft Punk. Put a few juvenile self indulgent words to the music, and presto...an asshole becomes a multi millionare.

I seem to recall a match that didn't go well for Serena in the past. She lost the game and cited "racist referee". She didn't want to say the other player played a better game than she did. She pulled out the race card. Stupid.
It's actions like this that perpetuate the ugly face of racism. It simply won't die when people of both races behave like morons.


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RUE
Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:02 PM

"It's actions like this that perpetuate the ugly face of racism."

No - it's vested interests who need an excuse to deny people a place at the economic table. If there were no actual resources on the line - no tangible THINGS at risk in this zero-sum system - no one would care about race, sex, age, accent, religion, sexuality ...

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Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:05 PM

"BTW - it's pretty easy to see where your thoughts come from and go to. You hate - and so you must justify that hate. You must demonize those you hate, in fact whole groups of people - futher, nearly everybody. You must do this not only to justify your hate, but to make you feel special. You only feel good about yourself as long as there is someone you can hate.

Who taught you that ? "

I can say the same thing about you, Rue.



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RUE
Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:08 PM

I don't hate anonymous people I have never met and will never meet by category - like you do. I just hate the individuals who have been hateful to me. Like you have.

So, who taught you to dish hate as if it was breathing ? Go way, waaay back - early childhood. Before about the age of 6. Why did you need to hate ? What did it get you ?

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Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:22 PM

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Originally posted by rue:

No - it's vested interests who need an excuse to deny people a place at the economic table. If there were no actual resources on the line - no tangible THINGS at risk in this zero-sum system - no one would care about race, sex, age, accent, religion, sexuality ...


Wrong. Everyone has a fair opportunity for an education, and career. There is no denial just those who choose to succeed, or to fail.
Hard to state outlandish claims in our present day society.

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