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Serena Williams- Giant crybaby

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Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:06 AM

Certainly the immensely classy and unselfish way Beyonce handled the situation shows that to label all black people as only capable of behaving in a unseemly way as such a load of crap.

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Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:52 AM

Oh, but see... Wulf is blind to that.

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Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:23 PM

Actually, I was the one who first said that the way Beyonce handled it was classy.

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Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:45 PM

S'true, he did. Although he did say of her, "at least..." I think, as if her behavior was somehow the exception to the rule...that doesn't necessarily say that's what he MEANT, tho'.

Occurred to me last night; why are so many people trying so hard to get Wulf to recognize his racism, when he's obviously blind to it and determined NOT to see it and to misunderstand (deliberately misinterpret?) when people try to explain to him why what he wrote IS racist?

Me, I got more interesting threads to get involved with...

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Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Niki,

Cause I took Mr Holders words to heart.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/18/holder.race.relations/

Don't want to be a "coward".

So how is anything I've said racist? Really?

Cause Im not going to back down in calling out stupidity? Cause I refuse to let the status quo be just that?

Cause I want things to change and the only way for that to happen is to make people recognize that there IS a problem?

"Holder urged Americans of all races to use Black History Month as a time to have a forthright national conversation between blacks and whites to discuss aspects of race which are ignored because they are uncomfortable."

Uncomfortable, huh.....

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RUE
Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:32 PM

"So how is anything I've said racist?"

It's SO much more than racism - you truly are a hate-filled person bent on creating targets for your hate.

One thing I've noticed about you - you never settle on hating particular individuals. No, for you, you have to create whole GROUPS to hate when you are irked.

It's not enough to hate the people who tormented you in school - no, you have to hate blacks as a group. And only individual blacks who work their way out of your category - by for example agreeing with you - fall out of their hated group. It's not enough to hate me - oh no, that would not do, you have to hate my 'ilk'. It's not enough to hate existing groups - no, you have to go back into the past to hate hippies.

BTW - the blacks in your school are not responsible for this. This is your personality - formed by the time you were roughly 6 years old. It was your ever-luvin' family that made you what you are today.

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Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:37 PM

See what I mean? We've pointed out to you again and again that it's not that you called her to task, but that your remark was "hot ghetto mess", yet you refuse to see that part of it.

I think you're toying with us, personally, trying to get our goats. Which you've managed to do, congrats, for whatever tiny satisfaction it gives you.

The statement has been made quite plainly, I can't imagine you're too stupid to understand it, and what has ANYTHING we've talked about got to do with what Holder said? I agree wholeheartedly with him, and this is an example of people trying to point out that your mentality has an aspect of racism to it. If it's uncomfortable for you to see or admit, THAT's where it's uncomfortable...and only to you, not to any of us.

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Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:57 AM

So now I'm going to get in trouble because I'm going to point out a sad truth: A lot of blacks are in trouble today, not because they're black but because they've grown up in a ghetto culture. (And Wulf, it's no credit to you that you avoided that fate: You were REJECTED by that culture, it wasn't a decision on your part. You're just as determined by your upbringing as anyone from the 'hood, it's only the particulars that are different. The question is: Can you change? Can you take a path that is DIFFERENT than the one set to you as a victimized honky? )

The best way to figure out "who's at fault" for ghetto culture is to try and change it. Change allows one to see which forces are at work and their relative magnitudes, which phenomena are primary and which are dependent. I'm not, however, of the persuasion that this is all fixable by individual effort if the people involved. If it were, Wulf would not be behaving the way he is today: He would have already changed.

Ghetto

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A part of a city, not necessarily a slum area, occupied by a minority group. The term was first used for the enforced concentration of Jews into specific residential areas in European cities from the Middle Ages, but has now spread to include other ethnic groups in unofficial ghettos, especially black minorities in the USA. Lifestyles within the ghetto differ distinctly from those of the ‘host’ population and the prejudices of the host confine the sub-group to particular locations. see redlining. Although ghettos are characterized by social disadvantage, most ghettos display a spread of socio-economic groups and the better-off may move to the affluence of the ‘gilded ghetto’.
originally applied to Jews.

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Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:20 AM

This crew? On a space ship? Yah, we'd kill each other. Serena Williams? Steroids. Just like the men. Easy way to win at tennis, serve with a million pounds of force. It's almost impossible to respond to that, the ball doesn't want to unless you're real fast and get exactly the right angle. That's not tennis, it's a firing squad. Anyway, easy way to get this kind of serve: Steroids. That's why major tennis players end up as a**holes. It's also why Anna Kournikova was never in the running. She didn't want to sacrifice her sideline career. But check out the muscle mass difference here:



So sure, some of the game is skill, but like basketball, there's a physical slant. Michael Jordan wasn't the tallest player, but he wasn't short. A 7 footer is in like Flynn.

We watched this whole roid rage thing with the men, IMHO, this is just history repeating itself.

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Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:31 AM

So, Wulfie - I'm still waiting. What was it, specifically, that made you think "ghetto" about THESE particular people? What was it, if NOT their skin color, that made your mind jump to the "ghetto" reference?

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