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Serena Williams- Giant crybaby

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Monday, September 14, 2009 3:20 PM

Obviously not at all political!

I play tennis (occasionally I do OK) so I have SOME understanding. What I saw at the US Open was Serena facing a loss to a unseeded player, and throwing a hissy-fit at the last instant to rob Kim Clijsters of a well-deserved victory by threatening to stuff the ball down a lines-woman's throat until she died. And THEN she had the balls to lie about to the press afterwards. VERY uncool.

Serena is great player. She's powerfully muscled and hits harder than any other female player. But she has this habit of dissing the opposition. On Dinara Safina, the most recent number one player: "We all know who the real No1 is," Williams told the press at the Italian Open today. "Quite frankly, I'm the best in the world." At the end of EVERY game that Serena loses, she basically says: Well, they didn't win. I lost. I didn't bring my A game. I didn't even bring my B game...

I'd like watching Serena if she didn't have this giant chip on her shoulder. I can do without the hostility. Peeps like her and John McEnroe ("the mouth") just really turn me off.

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Monday, September 14, 2009 3:23 PM

lol... it was defiantly a HGM moment (Hot Ghetto Mess)..... just like Kanye West at the VMAs last night... tho Beyonce showed some class afterwards.

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Monday, September 14, 2009 4:05 PM


I don't even watch tennis, much less play it, but yanno - I accidentally caught one moment that stuck with me forever.

Arthur Ashe walking off on Ilie Nastase back in 1975 cause Nastase was engaging in unsportsmanlike conduct and Ashe was unwilling to share the field with him because of it.

I was just a little kid, and the whole concept of walking away from a fight being the nobler thing to do to, until that day had come across to me as complete bullshit given the guaranteed results even trying to do so in elementary school.

Arthur Ashe made that concept real to me, and I never even knew his *name* till fifteen years later, just the image of him walking AWAY and refusing to feed an ugly situation - that stayed with me.

The man was pure class, hands down.

-F

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Monday, September 14, 2009 4:12 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

I don't even watch tennis, much less play it, but yanno - I accidentally caught one moment that stuck with me forever.

Arthur Ashe walking off on Ilie Nastase back in 1975 cause Nastase was engaging in unsportsmanlike conduct and Ashe was unwilling to share the field with him because of it.

I was just a little kid, and the whole concept of walking away from a fight being the nobler thing to do to, until that day had come across to me as complete bullshit given the guaranteed results even trying to do so in elementary school.

Arthur Ashe made that concept real to me, and I never even knew his *name* till fifteen years later, just the image of him walking AWAY and refusing to feed an ugly situation - that stayed with me.

The man was pure class, hands down.

-F



nice story,


we need more examples such as that these days


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Monday, September 14, 2009 4:54 PM

Arthur Ashe was a fine man and a gentleman until the day he died. He himself was discriminated against, and fought it down with good manners.

Serena aparently admitted, at the press conference, that she might have foot faulted. So she got all over an official for a correct call...

Some of the commentary on SI.com suggests that a referee shouldn't call an infraction at a critical moment in a match. I don't see that-- a violation of the rules is a violation, isn't it? Where do you stop? Should an umpire not call a third strike with 2 out in the 9th inning and the tying run on base?

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Monday, September 14, 2009 5:02 PM

Before instant replay and a "good" field goal that was outside by three feet destroyed even the pretense of fairness, I did occasionally watch a game of football, although I was never much of a fan.

You know who else struck me as a superior sportsman ?

Randall Cunningham.

This was a guy who worked it, didn't have so much of that "imma QB" crap with him, he'd run it if he had to, and if it came to cases and his team REALLY needed that yard, to heck with sliding or jumpin out of bounds, he was gonna HIT you!

Punter down and out, and it's fourth and long, gimme that thing, WHACK!
(FYI, he holds records for it!)

Got benched, so what, hey look, some kids, let's sign some autographs (coach sent an assistant to fuss at him about it, but randall waved him off) - hell, he stopped his limo more than once and walked in the rain signing autographs and talking to fans.

Johnny Unitas was a great guy too, like EVERYONE in Baltimore knew him, and he worked a real job just like the rest of us.

And yanno, for the life of me I cannot remember who it was, but there was one player who got hisself fined for tossing a game ball to a fan after scoring a touchdown - which I guess you could make a case for it, but really does seem ridiculously petty since it's just a freakin ball, they've got plenty more - should, given how much money is involved...

But what struck me, was the next game he played in, he scores a TD, and there's this split second where he looks at the ball, and then walks up to a fan in a wheelchair, defiantly looks RIGHT AT the camera, then turns and hands that fan the game ball, daring them to fine him for it.

For the player, it's just a ball, but for the fan it's a treasured memory that lasts forever, and I think that's what was going through the boys head when he did that.

Not EVERYONE in sports is as much an asshole as the worst of em, there's some pretty good examples in every sport, and they come from every walk of life - I *hate* figure skating and once the ex-fremgirl was watchin it to torment me when I was trying to repair the cheapass DVD player she bought... but I give you, much as it sucks, Elvis Stojko makes it awesome, seriously.

I think it's a matter of how bad news travels fast on it's own wings, but good news only goes so far as someone's willing to kick it.

-F

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Monday, September 14, 2009 5:08 PM

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Quoted by Wulfie:

lol... it was defiantly a HGM moment (Hot Ghetto Mess)..... just like Kanye West at the VMAs last night... tho Beyonce showed some class afterwards.



"Defiantly"? Granted, she WAS defiant, but I don't think that's the word you're looking for.

And what the hell makes it a "Hot Ghetto Mess", anyway?

You've done it again, Wulfie - you've ASSUMED that someone did something because they were black, and that's as far as you've been willing to think it through.

It was a low moment for Serena, absolutely. But race has nothing to do with her losing her temper.

Here's one thing I can't get past: Was it a bad call? It's conspicuous that nobody seems to want to address that issue. Regardless of whether it was a bad call or not, Serena's responses were unwarranted and very unprofessional, but I'd still like to see some better angles on the serve to see whether there actually WAS a foot fault. And the foot fault in tennis is like the double-dribble or traveling call in basketball - everybody does it, but nobody ever gets called on it. Either call them ALL, or quit calling them for any but the most egregious examples (for example, when a player's foot goes more than halfway across the white baseline.

Serena acted like an ass. By the way, so did Kanye. But I don't assume that they acted "black", or that they acted the way they did BECAUSE they're black. That would be like accusing Jeffrey Dahmer of "acting white" by murdering and eating people, or saying that he went all "Hot Suburb Mess".

Something else that the wife and I were discussing (we watched the whole thing live, in real time): Why is it that Serena's outburst has caused so much controversy? Anyone remember guys like McEnroe, "Nasty" Nastase, and even Jimmy Connors berating officials and getting standing ovations and cheers for doing it? What's changed? What's different? Is it worse when a woman does it than when a man does it?

Just curious.

Oh, and on the Kanye thing: Is this his new schtick now? What the hell? I did like what Pink had to say about him on her blog afterwards: "Kanye West is the biggest piece of shit on the planet."

Hard to disagree with that sentiment - but again, I prefer to base that on his ACTIONS, not his RACE.

Mike

Old friend charity
Cruel twisted smile
And the smile signals emptiness
For me
Starless and Bible black

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Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM

Anyone catch Michael Jordan's induction into the Basketball Hall of Fame over the weekend? Talk about small, petty, and vindictive. What an ass that guy has turned out to be, despite his media image as an all-around good guy. And as it turns out, most of the people who knew and played with him aren't even surprised. Most of them said words to the effect of "That's just Michael being Michael..."

He actually flew his old high-school teammate to the event, the guy who his coach put in the starting varsity position instead of MJ - and then he proceeded to blast his freaking high school coach for not starting him instead. "You made a mistake, dude."

Utterly classless behavior. Shameful. And his "thanks" to his family? He told his kids, "It's not easy being you. I wouldn't want to be you." Class act, buddy.

Mike

Old friend charity
Cruel twisted smile
And the smile signals emptiness
For me
Starless and Bible black

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Monday, September 14, 2009 6:11 PM

I'm more of a hockey fan than football

my favorite player, like many was Maurice Richard even though he retired before I started watching hockey

I watched a bio movie a while back and was taken aback a bit


I didn't realize back in the old days, pro hockey players didn't make huge money. In one seen Richard is shown working his shift at the steel mill he worked at since he was 15, then taking off a half hour early because he had a playoff game that night.

He had some run ins with officials, but was quoted saying they had the tougher job, I remember watching a NHL old timers game for charity, where Richard ( I think he was 65 ) said he was too old to play, so he was the referee.


While some of the new players are great, I don't think anyone with the same heart will play again...

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Monday, September 14, 2009 9:14 PM

Heya Wulf. Serena isn't the only tennis player with a big shoulder-chip. You shoulda seen Novak Djokovic (Serbian) in some of his less-than-stellar performances. Chest-thumping (Literally. There was something so.... Hitlerian in the gesture. Made my skin crawl!) and dissing other players when he won, withdrawing when it looked like he was gonna lose. Not sure whether it was bad publicity or locker-room feedback, but he straghtened out his act.

And how is Kanye West grabbing the mic any different than Joe (not his real name) Wilson shouting out YOU LIE! during Obama's speech, or right-wingers hijacking townhall meetings, and preventing others from speaking? If that's all ghetto-behavior, there's a whole lot of it going around!!!!!!

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