Firefly to Serenity. . .blessed evolution. . .

POSTED BY: Static
UPDATED: Monday, June 21, 2004 14:10
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STATIC

Saturday, June 19, 2004 9:25 PM

You know. . .

I've not heard much of it HERE, per se . . .but I've heard enough of this stuff to merit raising my voice.

Folks. . .April, 2005. . .Our beloved crew will climb aboard that beautiful flying tub once more and grace the BIG screen. Since we first learned that the movie had been greenlighted, we've had it presented to us that there are going to be a few things that are slightly different. Serenity herself will look a bit different. . .Wash's flight suits look a bit different. . .Kaylee's coveralls. . .Jayne's t-shirts. . .

These slight changes have some of our more die-hard and perhaps short-sighted fans up in arms. . .lamenting the changes. . ."Ooooohhhhhhhh, woe is us. . .the horrible corporate execs at Universal have forced them to get rid of the EVER CRUCIAL suspenders!!! Book with a beard?? Book doesn't wear a beard!!!! Wash's flight suit looks too 'official'! What are they thinking?"

Folks. . .get the heck over it. Our beloved Serenity is FLYING AGAIN. Don't you get it?

BIGGER SCREEN. . .BIGGER BUDGET. . .BIGGER AUDIENCE. . .BIGGER VISION!!!!!

Please don't lose sight of the fact that Joss is STILL the man in charge, and NEVER was there a TV writer/producer/director/CREATOR who was better in touch with his audience.

Will you folks quit crying and TRUST that the movie is going to be wonderful? For chrissake!

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"Wash. . .we got some local color happening. A grand entrance would not go amiss."

NOOCYTE

Saturday, June 19, 2004 9:33 PM

Right on, Static! Heck Serenity underwent some changes during the course of the series (stubby to long), and we (those of us who were compulsive enough to notice, that is) got over it without missing a step. Indeed, there are those of us who have tried valiantly to reconcile the exterior with the interior -- and found that it couldn't quite be made to happen without some portions exposed to vacuum-- may see our concerns addressed...

In short, I'm with Static on this one. The changes will be evolutionary, and with Joss at the helm, I'm altogether confident those mutations will be adaptive ones.

Most importantly, we will rise again!!. At the end of the day, that's what REALLY matters!

Keep flyin'!

Department of Redundancy Department

HEB

Saturday, June 19, 2004 9:42 PM

I'm sorry but I'm still gonna miss the tightpants.

No but seriously I couldn't agree with you more.

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Please don't lose sight of the fact that Joss is STILL the man in charge, and NEVER was there a TV writer/producer/director/CREATOR who was better in touch with his audience.

Will you folks quit crying and TRUST that the movie is going to be wonderful? For chrissake!

This is what I've been trying to tell people about the animated series but nobody believes me. I think it applies here too even more so:

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if there's one thing I've learnt over the last seven years it's TRUST JOSS. I doubted him when I heard about the Dawn storyline I thought it would be really weird to fit in a new character but whether you like the character or not I think Joss fitted her in perfectly. I doubted him when I heard about the premise for Firefly and we all know how that turned out.
I don't think Joss would do anything to compromise the quality of the Buffyverse.

Joss would never, could never do anything crappy. The movie is gonna be great and I personally can't wait.

Well, my sister's a ship... we had a
complicated childhood

TRASK43

Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:12 PM

Good post I am a little worried that when the movie comes out theres gonna be a bit of a backlash over all the tiny changes which there is inevitable going to be. Its also important to remember that it is just a movie. While this is probably the most excited Ive ever been about a film Ive seen plenty of bad experiences in the past by people getting so hyped up about something that it cant possibly match everyones expectations.

www.summer-glau.com

DARKJESTER

Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:50 PM

For a simple reason (my son was taking me out for my birthday, and I forgot to turn OFF the VCR to make the timer work) I didn't see "Ariel" until the DVDs came out. I think it's safe to say that "Ariel" is the episode least like the others that were broadcast (in the US). Simon is in his element, a hospital in the Core, where much of the episode takes place. We get our first up-close and creepifying look at the Blue-Hands. And the crew goes from lifting cargo from derelict ships and avoiding the Alliance whenever possible to raiding a reasonably secure, guarded facility. For me, it changed how I saw the interaction of the characters in the later episodes having finally seen the episode I missed. Especially my view of Mal, in light of his confrontation with Jayne.
But it was still Firefly! It added to my understanding of their 'verse. And personally, I'm sure the BDM will do the same. Maybe the dining room will be blue, maybe the hand rails will be chrome, maybe Wash saved up and got a new pilot's chair... but it will still be our Serenity. I don't think Joss is capable of screwing up enough to alienate any of us. He may shock us and even anger us, but it will still be our Serenity. IMHO, of course!

MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

FRED1988

Saturday, June 19, 2004 11:03 PM

I'm not worried about what the ship or characters will look like. My house hasn't looked the same from one year to the next; I've bought new clothes--why would Serenity and her crew stay static? As long as the characters and plot are true to the series and its creators inimitable vision, I think "Serenity" will make me very happy.

All my life I wanted to be somebody. I guess I should have been more specific.

EMBERS

Saturday, June 19, 2004 11:20 PM

As I posted in another thread on this topic:

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Personally I feel strongly that what we see on the screen THIS time will be Joss' vision...
the TV show involved constant compromises Joss had to make w/the suits at the network,
but the movie is his pure vision (or so I believe) and there fore I will embrace and rejoice in any changes Joss makes!

It is possible that the Studio suits might interfer, but that is NOT what we are hearing,
from all the leakage from the 'Serenity' shoot that I've heard this is 100% Joss' baby...
not like the nightmare he went thru at Fox:
'Mal needs to be nicer'
'use fewer horses'

So I am VERY happy to put up with any changes that bring 'Serenity' in to Joss' original vision for the show...

THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO KICK ASS!
(I'm so excited)

STARHAND

Saturday, June 19, 2004 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Static:
You know. . .

I've not heard much of it HERE, per se . . .but I've heard enough of this stuff to merit raising my voice.

Folks. . .April, 2005. . .Our beloved crew will climb aboard that beautiful flying tub once more and grace the BIG screen. Since we first learned that the movie had been greenlighted, we've had it presented to us that there are going to be a few things that are slightly different. Serenity herself will look a bit different. . .Wash's flight suits look a bit different. . .Kaylee's coveralls. . .Jayne's t-shirts. . .

These slight changes have some of our more die-hard and perhaps short-sighted fans up in arms. . .lamenting the changes. . ."Ooooohhhhhhhh, woe is us. . .the horrible corporate execs at Universal have forced them to get rid of the EVER CRUCIAL suspenders!!! Book with a beard?? Book doesn't wear a beard!!!! Wash's flight suit looks too 'official'! What are they thinking?"

Folks. . .get the heck over it. Our beloved Serenity is FLYING AGAIN. Don't you get it?

BIGGER SCREEN. . .BIGGER BUDGET. . .BIGGER AUDIENCE. . .BIGGER VISION!!!!!

Please don't lose sight of the fact that Joss is STILL the man in charge, and NEVER was there a TV writer/producer/director/CREATOR who was better in touch with his audience.

Will you folks quit crying and TRUST that the movie is going to be wonderful? For chrissake!

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"Wash. . .we got some local color happening. A grand entrance would not go amiss."

AMEN BROTHER! Testify.

“but I’ve been sane awhile now and change is good” …Wash

MAKEROFPATHS

Sunday, June 20, 2004 12:07 AM

Okay, I got the message :-) Now, for a little twist in this thread . . .
Here are the things I dislike about (gasp!) Serenity, the ship, and would like to see upgraded or just made more believable. It's a short list.

1. The twirly thingamajig that appears to power the butt end of Serenity. Mygawd, but that's an ugly and risible contraption, like that flying car in that old Disney movie -- ooops, just remembered Chittty Chitty Bang Bang! Yeah, it's got character and Kaylee can make it run but I can't conceive for a second how that could power anything other than a threshing machine. ETA: Forgot to offer solution. I'd like to see some power structure -- fusion reactor? -- that looks and sounds eerie and powerful.

2. When Serenity powers away from the Reaver ship in the pilot, just where does all that exhaust come from. There ain't nothing there to make that rocket-y smoke, other than the sidepods, which strike me more as manoeuvring jets, although quite powerful. Something on the butt of Serenity has to justify that kind of power. Mind you, the sight of that escape was a thing of beauty. Zoic rules!

3. When Wash's fingers dance over the controls, it's always over the same controls (the three magic switches, for example) and the setup tells me they haven't established too much of a layout. The designers need to work on that so whatever Wash does in -- I'm going to call it -- Serenity 2.0, the "dashboard" should be a little more convincing. And if you've ever seen an airliner cockpit (I know Static knows his way around a cockpit!), there's an eyeful of switches and gauges, partly because of the need for redundant controls. So there should be a secondary control station on Serenity, say to the right of Wash's.

Anyone care to comment or add to this? Or should we start a new thread?

GHOLA

Sunday, June 20, 2004 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by Static:

Will you folks quit crying and TRUST that the movie is going to be wonderful? For chrissake!

Okay I'm probably just overanalyzing that statement and I agreed with the rest of your post but I'm not going to judge a movie until I've seen it. Besides it's better to keep your expectations low that away you can't be disappointed.

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