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Authoritarian LEADERS/Social Dominants/Both (Now with Colors and Fonts!)

POSTED BY: Niki2
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Monday, September 7, 2009 6:22 PM

The Internet. This is a good place to start, though:

http://html.decobug.com/hexblack.htm

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Monday, September 7, 2009 6:24 PM

Here, try some of these colours.

Scroll down and ignore the cowboys, don't think they're gonna shoot.

http://cookshangout.com/internetcolors.html

EDIT: heh, think YinYang's list is better. :)

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Monday, September 7, 2009 9:08 PM

Let's see what happens.

Wow, it seems those "internet colors" WORK, and there's all kinds of wild colors in there.

Hee, hee, hee, both these "authoritarian" threads have devolved into "play"--which is fine with me, I think we beat 'em to death. But it's funny.

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Monday, September 7, 2009 10:32 PM

Chartreuse sounds like fun

Looks ordinary to me. I can't see Serenity either.

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Monday, September 7, 2009 10:42 PM

Oooo, you managed Comic Sans!!! That's my favorite font (well, next to benguiat maybe), but I couldn't get it to work! I wonder if the quote marks would work on other fonts we don't see?

Some of the fonts that don't work for me, Mike sees, and some I see, he doesn't. Go figger. But I tried Comic Sans so many times, and YOU got it!

Let's see if I can get these by adding the quote marks as you did:

Monaco
Palatino
Onyx
Rockwell

Nope, no such luck. Ah well...


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Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:29 AM

Nik

1. Sarcasm. Most of that was sarcasm, esp. the part where you said "I hope this is sarcasm." It seems you then argued with it.
2. Not so long a post, mostly quoting you. I have won by quoting my opponent alone though :)
3. I have a bias? News to me.
4. The main tenets of the book are flawed. I can't speak to it's tenants
5. Without correlation to the real world, case by case, the whole argument falls apart.
6. Did you even read my post? I said the problem was that it was all theorizing. There's a ton of fact already upon which current accepted analysis is based. Altemeyer's book opposes this, and simply fails to make the case.

Some humble suggestions:
a)Discard the ideological bias. Be very objective, let the studies speak for themselves, don't try to impose preset beliefs.
b)Try not to make grandiose claims. Stick to the particular psychological aspects of the study

I often disagree with the accepted viewpoint, I was just stating it. Personally, I think a lot of dictators are pretty boys without abnormal psyches serving masters who use psychological manipulation to secure power.

7. I'm concerned about real authoritarianism. If you propose "SDHA" is a hypothetical type of government which is NOT a major world problem, why worry?

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I disagree wholeheartedly that the author's bias equals anything like Wulf or PN's!

That was a snark at their expense. Welcome to the snark. Expect more of them. (Snarks are sarcasm.) Oh, and Wulf, PN, don't be such easy targets
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Equally so that authoritarianism comes from socialist think tanks!!!

Neocons who created the Bush admin openly admitted to being socialists:
"A Neoconservative is a socialist who supports the conservative movement" - Irving Kristol, founder of neoconservatism.
"Socialists will never get elected on their own merits"
"A neoconservative is just a socialist who was broadsided by reality."
"A social dem [later:clintonista] is a socialist who was broadsided by reality but didn't press charges."
Mr. Kristol is a funny guy. Too bad he has killed so many people.

8. Yeah, I got the "kind of people" thing, I just didn't buy the theory.
9. As I said, the underlying ideas are not without merit. He should stick to psychology until he can prove the phenomenon, and not leapfrog into geopolitical analysis.

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in THEIR minds, the world is evil and it's every man for himself, and they want to control. Dick Cheney is a perfect example..."for the good" of the American people--tho' it may be IN HIS MIND.


10. I think Dick is a career politician with a deep abiding faith in the greater good, IN HIS MIND, YES, and a very strong reliance on others. Notice that his cabinet was filled with long term political associates.He's also very deeply misguided.Outside of Rummy, I'm not sure he has "friends."

11. Obama made deals to get power which he now has, (He is President of the USA,) power which he acquired to enact (his version) of the greater good (which is hopefully closer to ours) I thought this was so obvious it barely made a mention. And no, I never said he as authoritarian, that would be absurd.
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citing Jefferson is a fallacy.

12. No, it's not. Whatever one thinks of Jefferson, that line opens our founding document. Ergo, it was the consensus viewpoint of the founders, or they'd have changed it.
13. On PWL/Reagan, that an editing error. I meant what you said: he was the major proponent.
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There's almost no difference between Bush policy and Clinton policy

That's your opinion, I disagree HEARTILY with it. In fact I find it amazing.


14. ??? I'm surprised. I thought you followed politics.
15. Re:Clinton and racism. He's responsible for the deaths of over 8 million blacks, has frequently made racist comments, used to work in his father's whites-only store. The guy's Klan material. Hell, he's their wet dream.
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Bush was a dumbfuck

Hoo, boy, DO we disagree!


16. No solving this one. He

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Tuesday, September 8, 2009 1:31 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Oooo, you managed Comic Sans!!! That's my favorite font (well, next to benguiat maybe), but I couldn't get it to work! I wonder if the quote marks would work on other fonts we don't see?

Some of the fonts that don't work for me, Mike sees, and some I see, he doesn't. Go figger. But I tried Comic Sans so many times, and YOU got it!

Let's see if I can get these by adding the quote marks as you did:

Monaco
Palatino
Onyx
Rockwell

Nope, no such luck. Ah well...


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See, I see 'em just fine. Monaco, Palatino, Onyx, and Rockwell, in their typefaces.

And your post is in Comic Sans, at least on MY monitor.

Your signature, however, is in dingbats, because I may have broken my settings on my Mac. The "Appearance" page font is defaulted to dingbats, and it won't let me change it. Might have to do some hacking around to see what I can clear out...

Oddly, it's ONLY your sig line that appears that way.

Mike

"It was already blue when we got here!"

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Tuesday, September 8, 2009 2:30 AM

Mike,

The font I used was "Comic Sans MS" which doesn't display on Linux. The "Serenity" doesn't either, but they just revert to default. I see few fonts.

Only Palatino came through over here.

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Tuesday, September 8, 2009 4:06 PM

Ironically, something came across my desk today which relates to the original topic and I consider still worth posting.

Y'all do recall me often stating that CITIVAS and Childtrauma academy research has noted actual physical construction differences in the brains of severely abused or neglected children, and that failure to acknowledge this makes treatment difficult, right ?
http://www.childtrauma.org/CTAMATERIALS/neuros~1.asp

Psychopaths have faulty brain connections
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32333480/ns/health-mental_health/

Apparently some british researchers have added some useful info on the other end, and it'd be interesting to correllate with their early experiences and see if the faulty connections are indeed that result, or a naturally occuring defect.

Either way, this is a pretty decent forward step in treatment and mitigation, so long as we treat it like a mental health issue rather than an outcast branding or pre-crime assessment.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Tuesday, September 8, 2009 7:35 PM

Frem.

Interesting. There are two problems here:
1. unnatural synaptic connections relating cause and effect, strange relationships, etc.
2. Actual brain damage caused by early head injuries and even more from poor nutrition of the abused child.

IMHO, Mental heath care is pathetic. I think we should destigmatize it, and just pull it into mainstream "healthcare." If someone' behavior is erratic, probably they have a heath problem that should be treated. Yes, there's psychology and neurochemistry, but I'd say most causes are just natural, with psychological symptoms.

But: All of these should just be treated as normal health problems, because mental health care is just as bad as the child treatment clinics you fight against... and you know I know...

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