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Question that's bugging me.

POSTED BY: peacekeeper
UPDATED: Friday, September 4, 2009 16:02
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Thursday, September 3, 2009 9:55 PM

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Originally posted by peacekeeper:
In the BDM after Mal has just got the wave from Inara,he is on the bridge with the others and Kaylee asks him why he thinks it's a trap.Mal then says, "Do you see a @@X££%"--- TRAP!!!. No matter how many times I have watched it,. I can;t quite make out what he says there.If somebody could fill me in on that I would consider it a kindness.


Mal: "Y'all were listening I take it?"
(Crew nods/looks abashed)
Mal: "Did you see us fight?"
*If I remember correctly Kaylee answers: "No".
Mal: "Trap!"
I'll rewatch to confirm tonight; but I'm gorram close.

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Thursday, September 3, 2009 9:55 PM

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Originally posted by peacekeeper:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
How about this question..........

In the BDM, before they pass through Reaver space there are some background sounds and then you hear "Cut them down" shouted as a loud whisper. What is that?

If I remember rightly the "cut them down" line wasn't in that scene. I thought it was what woke River up when she was asleep on the walkway???


You are correct.

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Thursday, September 3, 2009 10:31 PM

Is the subtitle button on the DVD remote that hard to find?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, September 3, 2009 11:11 PM

Re: subtitles. I was just going to suggest that. Been watching the epis with my husband (new convert) and he's 71, so watches with subtitles. I learned a LOT of stuff I missed, and I've seen each epi several times, so I highly recommend them, at least one time around. But it's not on the remote button, you have to select it on each individual DVD.

I believe the "cut them down" line was exactly what was suggested; yes, Mal did say "did you see us fight"; and I like the idea of Jayne's idea to let him go so he can do what he wanted to do in the first place.

As for Jayne's loyalty to Mal...have you watched all the epis yet? Don't want to say anything unless you have...

By the way, again re: subtitles. Jim's watching Buffy, too, and I was struck by something: On FF, the lines are spoken virtually always EXACTLY as they appear in the subtitles; on Buffy, what's spoken is almost invariably NOT precisely what's on the subtitles. I found myself wondering if they were looser with their lines there; it's most noticeable. If so, interesting. Are we talking more professional actors v. less professional ones, or the attitude of the director differing between the two series?

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Friday, September 4, 2009 4:54 AM

i think the differences between the subtitles and what is said is because the subtitles are normally taken from the original shooting script and it could be that they mucked about with the dialogue on buffy more than on firefly and didn't change it on the scripts

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Friday, September 4, 2009 6:34 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:




By the way, again re: subtitles. Jim's watching Buffy, too, and I was struck by something: On FF, the lines are spoken virtually always EXACTLY as they appear in the subtitles;

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Beg to disagree, most politely. Haven't got an example on tap, but there are a lot of errors in the subtitling. Many times, if you've heard a line enough times to understand it, the subtitle will say " Unintelligible" or something that is just plain WRONG, not the words on the soundtrack. Don't know if they got the subtitling from some version of the script, or just did it fast and didn't listen carefully.

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Friday, September 4, 2009 7:21 AM

I agree about sub-titles, they are the script lines, and we all know that lines get 'tweeked' during filming. I noticed that myself, I most always watch the DVD's the 2nd time around with subs because I get more out of it that way.

Jayne did help Dobson, Jayne's in it for the MONEY, he is ONLY loyal to that.

Without watching eps again, I don't remember enough exactly to add anymore.

Good questions people!


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Friday, September 4, 2009 8:20 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:




By the way, again re: subtitles. Jim's watching Buffy, too, and I was struck by something: On FF, the lines are spoken virtually always EXACTLY as they appear in the subtitles;

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Beg to disagree, most politely. Haven't got an example on tap, but there are a lot of errors in the subtitling. Many times, if you've heard a line enough times to understand it, the subtitle will say " Unintelligible" or something that is just plain WRONG, not the words on the soundtrack. Don't know if they got the subtitling from some version of the script, or just did it fast and didn't listen carefully.



2 examples:
Pilot, Wash says "Cry Baby Cry" and subtitles say "Lyrics."
Safe, BDH scene, Mal talks about Simon's ability to alienate folk, and subtitle says something like unintelligible.

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Friday, September 4, 2009 12:59 PM

The most "famous" flubbed subtitle, I think, is in The Message.

Tracey: Gorramit, Mal!
Subtitle: You're a rabbit, Mal!



Then there's always Trash when Mal calls Saffron YoSafBridge and the title says "[Chinese]"

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Friday, September 4, 2009 1:12 PM

subtitles are often wrong, as sometimes the subtitle people *suck*. I tend to stay away from them unless my ears can confirm what the subs are saying.

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