America commits suicide

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I think the government should let the private sector fuck up, like it always does. Run their infrastructure (electrical grid, banking hardware, gas transmission pipelines, control systems and software etc.) into the ground in the quest for bigger and better profits. Why try to save them from themselves? We've been living off the misery and death of everyone else for decades, believing that "capitalism" is a magic system that creates wealth for everyone because we managed to steal it from everyone else. Now, it's our turn in the barrel*. Americans need a big boot on their butt to give them a REAL taste of what capitalism is all about. And as long as they keep running Microsoft products, they will continue to have big, gaping security holes. Let them.

* Refers to a joke about a barrel in the prison yard. New inmate is introduced to the barrel, where he stuck in his wanker and and got sucked off. He was told: "You can use the barrel any day of the week except Tuesday." "Tuesday? what happnes on Tuesday"?" he asked. The answer came back "Tuesday is YOUR turn in the barrel".

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Yah, I know the Winter War. I think there was some sarcasm in my statement

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Russia Today Video , where it is predicted that the BamaChurian pResident will implode America :

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Afghanistan is worse. It's the place where empires go to die. And the funny thing is, every time an empire invades Afghanistan, they're fully convinced that THIS TIME it's going to be different. The British had rifles and artillery, and well-trained officers, and it only cost them an entire army to find out that Afghanistan isn't a place one can take and keep. The Russians had armor and helicopter gunships, and it only cost them their entire empire to find out that it's not a place one can hold. Then we decided we'd give it a try, because we have air superiority and drones. What we DON'T have is a strategy, or an end goal, or an exit plan. You can punish Afghanistan, you can hit her people and hurt them, but you can't take over and control them. But you can pour the whole of your empire down the drain trying...

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Yup, it is one of the things of which they are proudest...a people who have little to take pride in, and "little" in essentially everything. I lived there for 3-1/2 years; I adore the people, but the lives they lead were incredibly harsh. It's been a shock ever since 9/11 to hear it in the news constantly, considering when we came home and told people we'd lived there, they'd furrow their brows and say "uhhh, is that in Africa somewhere?"

If America ever learned to REBUILD what she so cheerfully goes in and destroys, she'd earn the respect and loyalty of the people she conquers, but we tend to walk away and wash our hands after a war, which sickens me.

The Afghans don't love the Taliban, I know there's a lot of misinformation out there so you don't have to believe me, but I'll say it anyway--and it's NOT opinion, I still have Afghan friends. The Taliban fought the Russians, who were incredibly oppressive--hey, remember, we helped supply them and called them "freedom fighters". Once in power, they became only slightly less the terror than the Russians had been (if you knew all the things the Russians did..).

It's not a country built for democracy, that's absolutely right. In a desert, where people are isolated in such dramatic fasion and life is only clung to by a thread, regional, tribal leaders are in power. There were few roads connecting villages--still are few from what I hear--you can't make roads that last in a desert, the sands ("shamals" that literally take the paint off cars), the snow, everything conspires to destroy them.

The temperatures easily get to 140 in summer; six foot snows in Winter; they burn donkey dung for fires, as trees were used up long ago by the kuchis--nomadic camel bands. I could tell you things that would curl your hair--no American can truly even begin to understand unless they lived there--not just passed through, but LIVED there, just as is true of any society hugely different from our own.

It was that way when we were there, '58-'61, when there still was a shah. He was a very forward-thinking man, tho' a despot, but he understood that he only had a light hand on the country as a whole, the local leaders handled everyday life. He got the chadri removed--I know because my mom was involved in it--and was getting women education, jobs...all of which went down the drain with the Russian occupation and now is even worse with the Taliban.

You can't take a country 2000 years forward in a few decades, nobody seems to grasp that. I heard "bomb them back to the stone ages", but they were barely OUT of the stone ages. If I really told you how it was back then, and probably not much different outside Kabul and other major cities today, you might not believe it.

In the kuchi tribes, who cross the desert on the trade routes that have existed before the time of Christ, when a woman has her baby she drops behind, finds a rock, and catches up when/if she can. Same with the elderly, they drop behind and die in the desert when they can't keep up. Insh'allah. Allah's will.

The poverty is unbelievable by any standards we know--far more than you can imagine. The childhood death rate is such that the saying was if a child can live to the age of ten, no

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Afghanistan is worse. It's the place where empires go to die. And the funny thing is, every time an empire invades Afghanistan, they're fully convinced that THIS TIME it's going to be different. The British had rifles and artillery, and well-trained officers, and it only cost them an entire army to find out that Afghanistan isn't a place one can take and keep. The Russians had armor and helicopter gunships, and it only cost them their entire empire to find out that it's not a place one can hold. Then we decided we'd give it a try, because we have air superiority and drones. What we DON'T have is a strategy, or an end goal, or an exit plan. You can punish Afghanistan, you can hit her people and hurt them, but you can't take over and control them. But you can pour the whole of your empire down the drain trying...

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Yup, it is one of the things of which they are proudest...a people who have little to take pride in, and "little" in essentially everything. I lived there for 3-1/2 years; I adore the people, but the lives they lead were incredibly harsh. It's been a shock ever since 9/11 to hear it in the news constantly, considering when we came home and told people we'd lived there, they'd furrow their brows and say "uhhh, is that in Africa somewhere?"

If America ever learned to REBUILD what she so cheerfully goes in and destroys, she'd earn the respect and loyalty of the people she conquers, but we tend to walk away and wash our hands after a war, which sickens me.

The Afghans don't love the Taliban, I know there's a lot of misinformation out there so you don't have to believe me, but I'll say it anyway--and it's NOT opinion, I still have Afghan friends. The Taliban fought the Russians, who were incredibly oppressive--hey, remember, we helped supply them and called them "freedom fighters". Once in power, they became only slightly less the terror than the Russians had been (if you knew all the things the Russians did..).

It's not a country built for democracy, that's absolutely right. In a desert, where people are isolated in such dramatic fasion and life is only clung to by a thread, regional, tribal leaders are in power. There were few roads connecting villages--still are few from what I hear--you can't make roads that last in a desert, the sands ("shamals" that literally take the paint off cars), the snow, everything conspires to destroy them.

The temperatures easily get to 140 in summer; six foot snows in Winter; they burn donkey dung for fires, as trees were used up long ago by the kuchis--nomadic camel bands. I could tell you things that would curl your hair--no American can truly even begin to understand unless they lived there--not just passed through, but LIVED there, just as is true of any society hugely different from our own.

It was that way when we were there, '58-'61, when there still was a shah. He was a very forward-thinking man, tho' a despot, but he understood that he only had a light hand on the country as a whole, the local leaders handled everyday life. He got the chadri removed--I know because my mom was involved in it--and was getting women education, jobs...all of which went down the drain with the Russian occupation and now is even worse with the Taliban.

You can't take a country 2000 years forward in a few decades, nobody seems to grasp that. I heard "bomb them back to the stone ages", but they were barely OUT of the stone ages. If I really told you how it was back then, and probably not much different outside Kabul and other major cities today, you might not believe it.

In the kuchi tribes, who cross the desert on the trade routes that have existed before the time of Christ, when a woman has her baby she drops behind, finds a rock, and catches up when/if she can. Same with the elderly, they drop behind and die in the desert when they can't keep up. Insh'allah. Allah's will.

The poverty is unbelievable by any standards we know--far more than you can imagine. The childhood death rate is such that the saying was if

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