Wrong ship?
POSTED BY: Solon
UPDATED: Sunday, June 20, 2004 14:46
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No no no no no no. . .
She didn't 'read' him as 'bad.'
She said. . .
"Mal. . .bad. . .in the latin."
Mal is the latin word for bad.
I think she was simply making a salient observation.
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Wow, Static. That makes a whole ton o sense. I'm sorry I missed the earlier discussion on this. Thanks
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Originally posted by Skydance:
Alternatively, his "orders" might have been to infiltrate a smuggling ring (any smuggler he could find) and map it out for an eventual bust. Some of our recent theories indicate the produce would appeal to a smuggler...
I really can't see this. If Book is an Alliance sleeper agent or lawman of any kind than he's either under very, very deep cover, or he's way, way off the reservation.
He's had plenty of chances to bust them, he's witnessed them committing all sorts of crimes from petty misdemeanors all the way up to the killing of a policeman.
Moreover, he knows all about the Tams. If he were a lawman they'd all've been in Alliance prison, or in some cases executed by now. I tend to agree with what I'm about to quote you on. He honestly felt called to, "Bring the Word to them's that need it told." He's a preacher now, but he's been a man of action all his life, and the monastic life's not for him.
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...I really think he's on a journey to test his faith, and do good in the world. Being a man of action, he couldn't just stay locked away in a monastery his whole life. He had to gain spirituality there, and then take it out into the world...
I really don't doubt that he's honestly a full-fledged, non-sleeper-agent shepard now. The big questions that I want to know are:
Why did he become a priest?
and
Who and what was he before he found religion?
"You're not thinking of taking on orders yourself are you?"
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Originally posted by Xarr:
Since we're speaking of Book, I have a question. It may be nothing, but then... it may be something...
...When River is wandering through the ship, listening in on everyone's thoughts, what was it that Book was thinking? I can't remember his exact words but it didn't strike me as particularly priest-like. As I recall, it was quite hostile.
Perhaps this "narrower path" he's on is leading to some serious pent up hostility.
Xarr, I popped in trusty DVD #4 and checked it out for you.
Book thinks, 'I don't give half a hump whether you're innocent or not! [menacingly]So where does that put you?'
Definitely hostile, but also a bit cryptic. Mysterious... Just like Book is anyway.
...Without the hostile I mean.
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Originally posted by Solon:
Book thinks, 'I don't give half a hump whether you're innocent or not! [menacingly]So where does that put you?'
Definitely hostile, but also a bit cryptic. Mysterious... Just like Book is anyway.
...Without the hostile I mean.
Something in the past that he's done (or done onto)....
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Originally posted by Kohan:
Also, in ARIEL it said that he went back to the monastery while Inara went to do her annual check-up. I wonder what that's all about? Simply just a time of repentance? a temporary get away? or...?
Or Ron Glass needing a vacation?:)
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Solon,
I agree entirely with your ideas.
But really, I do not believe that Book is currently anything but what he appears to be. He is a shepherd. A man of God.
However, it is also clear that he is running from a terrible (to him) past. Or if not running, then perhaps it is a past he simply rejects.
My own personal theory of Kaylee not being read by River is that she WAS read. If I recall correctly, during that time that River was walking by (and she may or may not have been there in the flesh), Simon looked at her and said his bit, but then Kaylee looked at her and said... nothing.
I think there wasn't anything there to register. This is not to suggest that Kaylee has no mind, but something more along the line of her being innocent and open like others have suggested.
The Real Me
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Originally posted by THEREALME:
But really, I do not believe that Book is currently anything but what he appears to be. He is a shepherd. A man of God.
However, it is also clear that he is running from a terrible (to him) past. Or if not running, then perhaps it is a past he simply rejects.
That's interesting. I automatically skipped ahead to running from his past into the priesthood. I didn't stop to consider a more simple, and less frantic or fearful, rejection or abandonment of that past, or of an old allegiance or ideal from it.
Book is clearly a devoted man of the cloth at the moment, what brought him there, and from where is what's piqued my interest.
"You don't fix faith... Faith fixes you."
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Hey all. I'm a little new to this board, mostly hang out on the OB, but I love the intense analysation of the eps that happens over here. Reckon you'll be seeing a bit more of me. Forgive me while I attempt to get the hang of the quote system.Quote:
Xarr, I popped in trusty DVD #4 and checked it out for you.
Book thinks, 'I don't give half a hump whether you're innocent or not! [menacingly]So where does that put you?'
Definitely hostile, but also a bit cryptic. Mysterious... Just like Book is anyway.
...Without the hostile I mean.
What I always wondered about that comment from Book was, who was the comment directed to? Was it directed at Jayne? Does Book know something about Jayne that we don't? Or is the comment directed at the crew in general? Or at River specifically?
From what I've read, I bet you guys have an opinion...

Charlotte
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you guess is as good as any guess.
My guess is that this particular line was delivered to him from his hidden past...
or, he himself said it and something tragic came out of it (maybe to a loved one? causing a tragic event to occur to him/her)
whatever it is, I think the line has something to do with him rather then anyone else on the ship.
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Guess I'm just a good man. 
Well, I'm all right. "
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