Thank you, Barney Frank!

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FREMDFIRMA

Monday, August 24, 2009 7:13 AM

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Originally posted by AdmiralDigby:
( the "Faggot" bomb thrower notwithstanding )

Generally it's my job to throw bombs, bein one of them *SARCASM* bomb throwing anarchists *SARCASM* don't ya know...

But cursed if imma take credit for that one, although, come to think of it didn't PN have some rant about a gay bomb, or anti-gay bomb, or somesuch, a while back ?

Yeah, let's blame HIM!
*laugh*

-F

KWICKO

Monday, August 24, 2009 12:10 PM

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Posted by Frem:

More like you chumming the waters with your idiocy, although in Kwicko's case he completely had ulterior motives, cause he was all the while setting you up like a pretty white volleyball, knowing DAMN WELL I couldn't resist going for the spike - he won't even deny it.
That ain't premeditated so much as he's an asshole and imma bastard who's primary rule is to always kick someone when they're down.

Could it be? He IS the Quisatz Haderach!

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Remember what I see you as, and realize that the more I raise your hackles, the easier it is to bait you, cause I so WANT to do that, I want to crush your arguments, make you look a fool, destroy any support for your opinions by completely obliterating any credibility you might possess.

Done, done, and DONE. Nice job.

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Ain't about keepin score, it's that I feel a moral duty to verbally scourge anything and anyone that I consider an enabler of tyranny.

Egg-Zachary! My wife asks me why I bother arguing on the internet with people whose opinions I'll never sway. I told her that it's not THEIR opinions I care about - I know I'll never change the minds of those so hidebound in their views, especially by being so confrontational with them. The only people I care about trying to connect with are the ones watching from the sidelines, who haven't quite made up their minds yet. The ones who hear the crap people like Wulf spews and say, "Ya know, he's got a point there..." The people who listen to folks like AntiMason blather on about "Well, the AMA is against healthcare reform, but it's not like THEY know anything..." without also pointing out that the AMA is NOT a think tank, but rather a special interest group, a lobby on behalf of doctors, representing less than 20% of doctors in this country, and hell-bent in increasing the paychecks of its members more than on influencing policies regarding better medical care.

THOSE are the people I want to reach, before it's too late. I think Frem, Rue, Signy, and a host of others feel the same way. We're not going to convince AuRaptor; we're not going to change BDN's mind. But what we CAN do is stomp them into dust before they get a foothold on someone else's views!

Mike

KWICKO

Monday, August 24, 2009 12:24 PM

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But cursed if imma take credit for that one, although, come to think of it didn't PN have some rant about a gay bomb, or anti-gay bomb, or somesuch, a while back ?

Sadly, that's one of his LESS-crazy rants, too. DoD actually DID do research into a "gay bomb" that was supposed to release pheromones that would turn everyone in the affected area into a raging sex fiend overcome with lust, which was supposed to mean they'd be too busy fucking each other to fight back against our troops.

Mike

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, August 24, 2009 1:56 PM

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Sadly, that's one of his LESS-crazy rants, too. DoD actually DID do research into a "gay bomb" that was supposed to release pheromones that would turn everyone in the affected area into a raging sex fiend overcome with lust, which was supposed to mean they'd be too busy fucking each other to fight back against our troops.

I see...

So did they accidentally drop it on washington, D.C. ?

That'd explain a lot, wouldn't it ?

-F

DREAMTROVE

Monday, August 24, 2009 3:12 PM

Lol. I thought this only worked on insects. thought I know ... um, skip that thought...

Where is your god now...

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Monday, August 24, 2009 4:55 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
BDN... MEANWHILE...
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BDN: I would appreciate a direct response to my prediction, and to my request for a single instance of where you criticized the Bush administration or made a single prediction about where his policies would lead. Because for someone who keeps sayin' ANYONE could have predicted that! the problem is... you didn't.
AND, you're avoiding this.

Stupid troll.

A) Please expain to me where it says that I must answer your petulance within a certain time frame.
B) For someone who 'retired' I notice no decrease in volume or vitriol from you.
C) Where does it say that because I could have done something, that automatically means I must.
D) You keep putting a lie to your "but I only want to engage people in substantive debate" with your constant name-calling.
E) The past is past, one must look to the future. And in that vein, here is my prediction regading the Obama administration.
Inherited defecit. No major scale back of military operations. An itinerary to improve healthcare. I predict Obama will raise taxes. The richest will be hit hardest but the middle class will not escape unscathed.
Anyone want to make a wager? I will give 2/1 odds.

KWICKO

Monday, August 24, 2009 5:54 PM

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Inherited defecit. No major scale back of military operations. An itinerary to improve healthcare. I predict Obama will raise taxes. The richest will be hit hardest but the middle class will not escape unscathed.
Anyone want to make a wager? I will give 2/1 odds.

Inherited deficit? Yes, he certainly did. And it's going to be damned hard to pay off Bush's debts and deficits WITHOUT raising taxes, isn't it? Hell, I predicted that NO MATTER WHO WON THE 2008 ELECTION, your taxes would be going up. One candidate or another can promise tax cuts, and even occasionally deliver them, but they can never make them stick, it seems - you cut taxes today and don't cut services or spending, and you WILL have to raise taxes tomorrow to pay for those services and spending. Either that, or you'll have to raise taxes to pay the interest on the money you borrowed from China to pay for those services and spending yesterday - and you'll be paying that interest for all your tomorrows.

So, will Obama LEAVE an inherited deficit behind? Depends, I s'pose. If he gets 8 years AND raises taxes, he can probably pay down a lot of Bush's deficits. Otherwise, probably not so much.

An itinerary to improve health care. That's not so much a "prediction" as an "after-diction"; he's already working on that one. Or have you not been paying attention?

Raising taxes. See above. "The rich will be hit hardest" - weren't the rich the ones who were "hit hardest" by Bush's tax cuts? 'Cause the poor and middle classes sure didn't see much in the way of relief.

No major scaleback of military operations. Well, we're supposed to be out of Iraq quite soon - maybe a year sooner if the Iraqis vote for such a referendum. And you can't have a problem with them voting us out, because that was the whole reason for the war, right? To give them democracy? Well, that was ONE of the reasons du jour, anyway...

Now, as long as Obama doesn't increase troop levels by 130,000 in Afghanistan or invade any other nation with a like-sized armed force, that would be a de facto reduction in military operations, would it not?

Mike

DREAMTROVE

Monday, August 24, 2009 6:00 PM

Mike

Guacamole

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Why do you make it so easy, BDN ?

So you can keep up.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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My memory is pretty good but not quite so good as yours, apparently. And to be quite honest, I do find some of your posts overly long for my relativly short attention span. I also suppose that I do not spend as much time here as you. So I can postulate that perhaps I missed more than a few of your posts. Not all topics and therefore not all threads interest me as well.

Then perhaps you should allow for that before you open your mouth, just sayin.

Well that's a novel idea there Frem. No one should ask any questions unless they already know the answers first.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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No where did I say that Frem was full of shit. Or Frem does not know what he is talking about.

Of course not, that would require you to stand to it - no, you insinuated it, and now wanna weasel out when the bluff is called.

You sure do need to spin things to make yourself look better. At first I thought it was your extremely high opinion of yourself that I reacted to. Now I think perhaps you have a low opinion of yourself. Why else the need for all the grand-standing. If that is the case, then my bad.

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So once again, What trap did you just snap?

Baiting you to keep sticking your neck out when I am nearby with metaphorical axe in hand, grinning... like, well... now.

It's okay, Frem. We all feel down from time to time.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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What is all this about cowards on my side showing their true colours? This very thread has been a prime example of my shark analogy. By posing to you a simple query, I was engaged by no less than 3 other posters while waiting on your reply. Could it be the pack mentality?

More like you chumming the waters with your idiocy, although in Kwicko's case he completely had ulterior motives, cause he was all the while setting you up like a pretty white volleyball, knowing DAMN WELL I couldn't resist going for the spike - he won't even deny it.

Yep, yah sure did stick it to me. You and your sock puppet both.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
That ain't premeditated so much as he's an asshole and imma bastard who's primary rule is to always kick someone when they're down.

What's up Frem, only children are worth being civil to? Or is it just people who think like you do?

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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Don't really know, I decided to take a pass on lunch. Perhaps your power of memory is intermittent. Do you not remember me stating before that I was not an American citizen?

Then why's it matter to you so much ?

Because I come here to spar, I mean debate. Is that so wrong?

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
And I will say if you're british you did get that lunch cause I don't believe those diplomatic snubs are at all accidental, nor do I think them undeserved.

Wrong again, but what's the point. I could tell you I was from Mars and you would still try to find a way to try force feeding me your sandwich.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
See, to me, you're filed as "Authoritarian Lapdog, Mild Case, Occasionally showing the barest lick of sense.' and thus your mere existence provokes a natural emnity since I see all such types as collaborators and enablers.

Well that cuts it. I have been filed away in Fremworld. I truly hope you never come to the realization that we all don't live in Fremworld. If that day ever comes it shall shatter your little world and shake your beliefes to the core. And I'm not sure you could bounce back from that.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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Still heavily in favor of the bash Bush crowd no?

Oh and poor widdle shrub didn't give folk any REASON to bash him, is that your sob story ?
Again, note that whole "No Sympathy" t

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