Thank you, Barney Frank!
POSTED BY: Kwicko
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 22:08
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Originally posted by rue:
Now I see - you WERE lying when you posted:
"I do like to enter the water when the 'blue' sharks are circling the Wulf though. Or any other Poster who has the temerity to go against the prevailing flow of this place for that matter."
and
"No, I just don't like gangs of bullies."
Will wonders never cease.
Ever consider that you are part of the prevailing flow of this place?
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Originally posted by rue:
BTW - it would help your argument if you could keep your lies straight.
You first.
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DT
Picture doesn't load on my computer. I'm afraid it's lost on me.
Just talking about how it is people rationalize their attitudes and actions - how OJ might have, how Wulf does. And how such rationalizations can lead to bad places. People generally don't do bad things out of nowhere. They have a story going through their heads about why what they do and how what they feel is right and natural - even righteous.
Specifically, Wulf can't seem to let go of the feeling that 'they' had CONTROL over his life. That having that control over his life meant 'they' MUST also have had control over theirs. That 'they' are to blame for all of his problems, and that 'they' are also to blame for all of theirs. That no good came to him that he did not create himself out of his own efforts. And so on.
This line of thought is easily used to justify much personal evil. I see Wulf is on the wrong track - potentially dangerous to him and others, fueling hate which can lead to violence. I am merely commenting on it, as others have, in an impersonal way.
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BigBM
No one is fooled by you. I have not contradicted myself, insisting I did things for a noble reason and then stupidly admitting to a nasty one.
You lie, and lie and lie. You lie about what you mean. You lie about what you do. You lie about why you are here. You are nothing but a troll. And a stupid one at that. That is what you are. And that is how people see you.
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I'm still waiting for Frem to show me where he got it right. Not tell me after the fact.
Annnnd...
SNAP GOES THE TRAP.
You asked for it, you'll have it.
Relevant portions underlined for emphasis.
Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 19:39
"Maybe Chris, maybe...
Had a bit of a dialogue with Dingell this past week, he's not directly my rep but he is my go-to-guy for a defense of 2A Rights often against the wishes of and in contravention of his own party.
One thing we're agreed on is that Obama does not respect the 2A, and we're going to pre-emptively and politically kneecap his ass regarding that fact to prevent him from getting excessively stupid about it.
See, ya gotta take the long view, and with the Rethugs busy engaging in what could be best termed a circular firing squad, that's when it falls to us NOT to breathe a sigh of relief and go home, like so many did when the Dems took a stronger foothold in congress - with the predictable result of them rolling over like bitches the moment we let the pressure off.
Obama has his flaws, and while Biden might be a restraining influence on him, I wouldn't count on that fact alone to prevent the results of those flaws from coming down on our heads.
First, you get the more reasonable, rational guy in office, THEN you make DAMNED SURE that any attempt to overstep himself runs smack into a well formed, pre-existing and rabidly defended roadblock, manned by folks who are tired enough of that shit to not take it from ANY administration.
And that goes for both Conservatives and the kool-aid chuggin RightWingNut horde too...
Cause if yer concerned about Obamas little "plans" you might ponder the fact that we the people don't have to LET him inflict them upon us, and perhaps the best way to avoid that is to push for undoing YOUR blank check that you handed to the executive office in your ignorant fucking stupidity, before he rams it down you throat on a pike like your little pet Shrub did to us.
Kick his ass till it sinks in between his oversized ears that he works for US, not vice versa, use those shrill voices in your own defense, and by that action defend the rights of us all.
In short, pull your fucking weight as americans for once, instead of forcing the rest of us to carry you, unwilling, and you screamed and struggled and demanded a de-facto dictatorship.
And if Obama DOES feed you a hefty helping of the shit sandwich shrub has been feeding us for seven years, you have only yourselves to blame, and don't go expecting much sympathy from me, since your support of a unitary executive enabled that to happen.
In fact... don't expect any fucking sympathy from me at all, because those of you who shouted the loudest in support of tearing down the checks and balances are now running in panicked circles at the thought of the power YOU enabled being aimed at you by a party you disagree with.
But it ain't about sympathy you pissants, and thank your lucky fuckin stars for that - right now it's about self-defense, and if we're gonna get stuck with this guy, the LEAST you can do to atone for your damnfool shortsighted ignorant stupidity is to help rebuild the walls you spent so much effort tearing down.
Or you can run and hide under a rock like your fairhaired boy McCain.
You don't owe me shit, but I think you owe it to yourselves to not let Obama and his plans run over us all.
That's MY bi-partisan call to ya, and if you don't like it, too fuckin bad, you don't HAVE to like it, but if you have any sense left at all, you'll do it.
Get on the horn to your reps and start roadblocking this shit, before he's got a chance to get the ball rolling on it.
-Frem"
http://fireflyfan.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=35077
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 19:47
"I think it's that the big media has simply realized nobody gives a shit.
This one's a no-contest, McCain is draggin around so much party baggage that even a lot of die hard conservative types won't lift a finger, and the blowback hostility directed
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DT ?
I like this one better.
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Seriously, did you just compare Wulf to O.J.? Why not just call him Hitler or Stalin?
Seems the mighty-whitey-righties have those taken right now.
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No. Just 'siding' with anyone who seems to get you riled up.
So if I come out and denounce Al Qaeda, you'll side with them?
I always suspected...
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Be honest Rue. I believe there was a fairly close 50/50 split for and against the tasering of said student. You were in the against camp and I was in the for camp, imagine that.
Seems you're always in favor of cops having a go at peoples' civil rights - unless those people are armed protesters at an Obama appearance, of course.
Mike
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Frem,
I went with the classic. I like to re-iterate the simple lessons of the net just to see how many repetitions it takes the knuckleheads to understand. A moderately intelligent animal is supposed to get it in 5 or less, the smartest, such as humans, in 3. An internet debater, I'll go for more like 12, I think that's a good distance below a french poodle.
You may fear biden, but the people don't, so that's not the game. His popular image is as a buffoon, cheneys popular image was that he ate children.
As per the 2a, so the trap here is that gun toters will make obama so nervous that he will get armed security to keep them out, thus proving their point?
Mike,
We are Al Qaeda.
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But DT ?
Coyote never DOES learn!
That's what makes baiting him so fun!
Meep Meep!
-F
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Evidence would seem to indicate... I suppose you have tried this experiment daily over the last 5 years.
Curiously, an earthworm learns on the 150th repetition, vs. a little yippie dog which takes until the 85th.
Also curiously, the small one, which doesn't embed well, and may not play, plays at a much better frame rate for me. Does anyone else have this issue? I'm on a solid state PC and that may effect things.
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