Thank you, Barney Frank!

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ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:27 AM

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Oh , and Reagan was a good POTUS .

You mean for one so inexperienced?

What was it that you found so "good" about him, by the way?

Mike

Dude ran a sizable state before ascending to a bigger chair .

And while it was more of a matter of circumstance , Ronnie *did* win the Cold War .

( too bad we abandoned Afghanistan in her moment of need )

ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:30 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
GO Digby!! (I know, you hate me; maybe someday that will change...meanwhile I will give you the respect I've always suspected you deserved, so THERE!)

Please , stop ascribing emotions on me .

I do not hate you .
Never have .

Do you annoy me at times ?

Yes .

Not hate babe .

DREAMTROVE

Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:06 AM

Oh, pointless partisan infighting. How quaint.

ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:58 AM

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Oh, pointless partisan infighting. How quaint.

Am I pointless or just quaint ?

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:16 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
You were challenging Frem to refresh your memory on the SERIOUS criticisms about Bush.

No, I was asking Frem to refresh my memory in regards to the predictions of fascist practices by the past administration.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Is it that you can't find any evidence to deny Frem's words, or do your lips just get tired from all that reading?

Since when is it incumbent upon me to find evidence to back up Frem's words? And when did you crawl so far up Frem's ass that you can no longer tell where he ends and you begin.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Of course, by your own words, you WOULD vote for him for a second term, right? After all, at that point he WILL be the most experienced candidate running for the office...

Since when are Canadians allowed to vote for the POTUS?

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Hell, even I can predict that if a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car, bad things could happen.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

BUT YOU DIDN'T!

YOu couldn't even see there was a problem when the drunk was crashing the car into every solid object he could find!

That's because my attention was drawn to the crazy woman on the street corner yelling "Down with Bush" and "Capitalism is evil"

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Hell, BDN, in this analogy, not only didn't you call it, but Frem did, AND he also told you WHERE the drunk would hit something, and WHAT he would hit.

Really now. Don't say you are ascribing your opinions onto others again. Please show me where I disagreed that Frem would not hit that, there, and then. To be quite honest with you, I'm still trying to figure out what he hit. Though I think I can puzzle out the where's and when's roughly.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
A "prediction" wouldn't be saying that "bad things *could* happen". A "prediction" would involve saying WHAT was going to happen, HOW it was going to happen, and WHEN. Seems Frem has a very much better track record around here than you, when it comes to predictions.

I think, Frem thinks, that a prediction is to say that something that has happened before would continue to happen. You think torture only happened under the past administration? You think the "alphabet agencies" only did bad stuff during the past 8 years? You think the government did not surveil the public before Bush?
And I don't think Frem has a better track record around here regarding making predictions. I have made only one to my knowledge and I was right. I'd say 100% is pretty good, no?

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Weren't you one of the ones who said Bush was going to be remembered as a "great" President?

No.

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See if you can dig up where you said that, okay?

Do your own homework.

KWICKO

Sunday, August 23, 2009 7:09 AM

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Since when is it incumbent upon me to find evidence to back up Frem's words?

Weren't you the one questioning his accuracy? As you said, "Do your own homework."

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And when did you crawl so far up Frem's ass...

And there you go ascribing your desires to others.

So is agreeing with someone now "crawling up their ass"? Is that your official position on it? How long have you been in Rappy's ass? Or Hero's? Can you tell what they had for breakfast?

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Since when are Canadians allowed to vote for the POTUS?

Comprehension really isn't your strong suit, is it? You'll note that I asked him if he "WOULD" vote for Obama (as in, WOULD you vote for him if you could?), not if he "WILL" vote for him. Since he's a Canadian, he obviously can't vote for our President. But it's nice of him to tell us who we should and shouldn't have for our leader. I think I'll take up telling Canadians what kind of health care they should have; I'm sure they'll appreciate that. Their current system is making us look bad. Clearly they'll have to change theirs.

Mike

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:24 PM

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Since when is it incumbent upon me to find evidence to back up Frem's words?

Weren't you the one questioning his accuracy? As you said, "Do your own homework."

It is incumbent on the person making the claims to back them up when asked, IMHO.

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And when did you crawl so far up Frem's ass...

And there you go ascribing your desires to others.
So is agreeing with someone now "crawling up their ass"? Is that your official position on it? How long have you been in Rappy's ass? Or Hero's? Can you tell what they had for breakfast?

Just wondering why you keep answering for Frem is all. Your analogy might be more apt if I, in fact, kept answering posts directed at Auraptor or Hero.

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Since when are Canadians allowed to vote for the POTUS?

Comprehension really isn't your strong suit, is it? You'll note that I asked him if he "WOULD" vote for Obama (as in, WOULD you vote for him if you could?), not if he "WILL" vote for him. Since he's a Canadian, he obviously can't vote for our President.

Nice save.

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But it's nice of him to tell us who we should and shouldn't have for our leader.

I don't remember him saying anything of the sort. I believe he was offering an opinion about the POTUS, both past and present. Now why don't you respond in kind regarding past and present Prime Ministers of Canada. This should be good.

SIGNYM

Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 PM

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You were challenging Frem to refresh your memory on the SERIOUS criticisms about Bush.-SIGNY

No, I was asking Frem to refresh my memory in regards to the predictions of fascist practices by the past administration.-bdn

You took the bait.

Okay, so then why the CLUMSY attempt at re-direction???

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Signy,You already agreed with me that there was a lot of silliness directed at Bush. Why go back on that now?

This wasn't about silliness. Never was. And, I noticed, that you never DID answer Frem's list of predictions... The basis of which was: Whatever illegal act Bush does now which you support will be used by another President whom you do NOT support. Seems. actually, to be straightforward. But you still haven't gotten it. Hell, you can't even admit when things are goin' seriously wrong AT THE MOMENT.
Time to remove your blinders, BDN. Wake up an' smell the coffee.

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Nice save.

Oh, BTW... everyone but you sees this as the pathetic attempt that it is to cast YOUR error on Kwicko. You made the same mistake in the other thread about FDLS... www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=39585 constantly misunderstanding me due to your simple FAILURE TO READ ACCURATELY, missing all of the "ifs" and "seems to be" which I had included in my posts to indicate that I had simply not made up my mind either way on the topic. Now, I don't claim to be as smart as Kwicko or as world-wise as Frem, as fact-rich as Rue or as empathetic as HK, but everyone knows that any of them can think circles around you, and it would suit your purposes NOT to try making them look stupid over YOUR mistakes, because it makes you even more irrelevant than you already are. So a word to the wise (if you can deal with it): READ CAREFULLY AND RESPOND DIRECTLY. You'll get into far less trouble that way, and you'll represent your viewpoint a whole lot more effectively. (That's my approach and I'm stickin' to it.)

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:22 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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You were challenging Frem to refresh your memory on the SERIOUS criticisms about Bush.-SIGNY
No, I was asking Frem to refresh my memory in regards to the predictions of fascist practices by the past administration.-bdn
You took the bait.
Okay, so then why the CLUMSY attempt at re-direction???

What attempt at re-direction. You seem to be confusing two seperate discussions. One I'm having with you about silly attacks on the President and one I'm having with KwickFrem about his predicting ability

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This wasn't about silliness. Never was.

It was, then you adressed it. Now I'm on to a whole other topic.

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And, I noticed, that you never DID answer Frem's list of predictions... The basis of which was: Whatever illegal act Bush does now which you support will be used by another President whom you do NOT support. Seems. actually, to be straightforward. But you still haven't gotten it.

That's a little clearer, I guess. I thought Frem was boasting about how he could see the fascist practices of the Bush administration before they happened. You know, predictions like after Iraq, Iran would be next and so on. I did not realize he was proud of the fact that he puzzled out once a government grabs more power they will not give it up. Frem might as well crow about how he predicted that at the end of the day, the sun sets.

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Hell, you can't even admit when things are goin' seriously wrong AT THE MOMENT.

And you can't admit that you do not know how to blink. I figure one made up charge is as good as another.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Time to remove your blinders, BDN. Wake up an' smell the coffee.

You mean your particular brand, right?

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Oh, BTW... everyone but you sees this as the pathetic attempt that it is to cast YOUR error on Kwicko. You made the same mistake in the other thread about FDLS... constantly misunderstanding me due to your simple FAILURE TO READ ACCURATELY, missing all of the "ifs" and "seems to be" which I had included in my posts to indicate that I had simply not made up my mind either way on the topic.

So you were merely making assumptions in the FLDS thread based off of incomplete research. Not very 'scientisty' of you if you ask me.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Now, I don't claim to be as smart as Kwicko or as world-wise as Frem, as fact-rich as Rue or as empathetic as HK, but everyone knows that any of them can think circles around you, and it would suit your purposes NOT to try making them look stupid over YOUR mistakes, because it makes you look even more irrelevant.

You are right. Why engage what I feel to be the more articulate Poster's when I could simply be trolling PN or correcting Whozit's grammar. When does that get fun? Besides, I never really got off on that kind of false sense of superiority.

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So a word to the wise (if you can deal with it): READ CAREFULLY AND RESPOND DIRECTLY. You'll get into far less trouble that way, and you'll represent your viewpoint a whole lot more effectively.

Isn't that the great thing about our society in general. You are free to offer your advice as I am free to completely ignore it.

KWICKO

Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:34 PM

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Nice save.

It wasn't a "save" - I wrote what I meant. That you were unable or unwilling to comprehend it as I wrote it is your bad, not mine.

Or were you willingly distorting and misunderstanding my intention in hopes of trying to score a couple cheap points in an argument you're clearly outmatched in?

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It is incumbent on the person making the claims to back them up when asked, IMHO.

Well, in that case, Frem's already done that. If you're claiming that he DIDN'T lay the stuff out chapter and verse, then isn't it incumbent ON YOU to back up your claim, and show us all where he got it so horribly wrong?

As you said, do your own homework. Make your case, or admit that you have none.

As for why I responded instead of Frem, well, maybe it's because something about you just rubs me the wrong way. Know what I mean?

Also, I was under the impression that when you post on an open forum, you open your posts up for responses from all comers. If you wanted to speak ONLY to Frem, maybe you should try PMing him.

Oh, look - here's a post with YOU responding to a question I'd asked directly of Wulfie:

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And since when do you consider standing up for your rights "going all ghetto"? I thought you were a fan of standing up for one's rights! I guess that view changes when it's black folk doing it, eh?

I'm a fan of not mentioning the Officer's Mother.

So how far up Wulf's ass ARE you, anyway?

Mike

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