The #1 selling car in the 'Cash for Clunkers' program is.......
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Quote:You're right, I give up. If I give you ALL my money, you'll give me a little to buy shoes, thank you. Barry has all the answers, he will lead us to freedom.....thank God.
Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:Quote:In that case, how about a "Cash for Coats" program. Or "Cash for Shoes", or "Cash for Cellphones, or "Cash for Furnature", or "Cash for Lawnmowers", or "Cash for TV's", or "Cash for DVD Players", or "Cash for Rist Watches". Why does Barry just want to sell cars?
Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
The whole point of the program was to payback Barrys boys (and girls) in the UAW.
Hmmm... and here I thought it was trying to stimulate the economy by getting people buying things...
And last week, they were saying the Ford Focus was #1 in sales. Wonder what happened.
Mike
Don't most states have "tax-free holidays" nowadays? I know Texas does. That one weekend per year (THIS weekend, which is why I'm not out in the crowds right now) when they waive the sales tax on may items? The idea behind it is to stimulate buying of things, I believe.
The funny thing is, it's been so successful that they're thinking of scaling it back. The funnier thing is, its success is based ENTIRELY on the idea that you're "putting one over on The Man" by buying something without paying the sales tax. Can you imagine how low the turnout would be if I were to have an "8.25 Off Sale!"? That's all the tax holiday is. That's how much you're "saving".
And it works, every single time.
Mike
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Quote:But that's the cool thing. He's not taking the money from you, he's taking the money from the folks buying US Government debt, which is folks from all over the world who, for their dear love of such investments, are willing to take a pittance of interest payments. The real question is, will we be able to pay it back, and the next question of how ugly will the interest rates get when our back is truly to the wall. But that's next month's problem. _NOW_ we have shiny new cars.
You're right, I give up. If I give you ALL my money, you'll give me a little to buy shoes, thank you. Barry has all the answers, he will lead us to freedom.....thank God.
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Oh, LeadB, you've got it all wrong - why would anybody want a shiny new car when they COULD have a shiny new WAR? C'mon, we all know the REAL Americans only want their nation to go into debt if it involves killing lots and lots of other people. Things like health care here at home or stimulating the economy are NEVER going to be as sexy or well-received as mortgaging our nation's future for a shiny new war. As a nation, what does it say about us that the senseless and brutal murder of other nations' people is seen as more "patriotic" than helping our own here at home?
Mike
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Ahh... I had hoped we'd be pulling out of Iraq, etc. more quickly... at least Iraq 'seems' to be headed in the right direction, as opposed to Afghanistan... but we are wondering far from the original thread....
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Oh, LeadB, you've got it all wrong - why would anybody want a shiny new car when they COULD have a shiny new WAR? C'mon, we all know the REAL Americans only want their nation to go into debt if it involves killing lots and lots of other people. Things like health care here at home or stimulating the economy are NEVER going to be as sexy or well-received as mortgaging our nation's future for a shiny new war. As a nation, what does it say about us that the senseless and brutal murder of other nations' people is seen as more "patriotic" than helping our own here at home?
Mike
So irresponsible spending is OK if it's for a good cause?
I guess if I'm honest, really, I can't fault the Democrats for hypocrisy on this one (like I can the Republicans). I can't remember ONCE in the last election crapfest when the Dem's claimed to be the responsible spending party.
So now they mortgage our nation's future for the sake of other, better bullshit. Whatever. Fuck it, I don't care any more. So long as this doesn't kill the used truck market. Daddy needs a 4x4.
Mercy is the mark of a great man.
Guess I'm just a good man.
Well, I'm alright.
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Is irresponsible spending okay if it's for a good cause? Well, if not "okay" exactly, at least "better" if it's for a good cause.
It's funny, though - the only two times in living memory when we've had anything close to a balanced budget or a budget surplus were both under Democrats - LBJ and Bill Clinton, to be exact.
So I'm really not sure how it is that the Republicans ever thought they could steal the "fiscally responsible" label, because it's for damn sure they've never once tried to EARN it. 
Mike
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LBJ
Yes, and his war was shiny and new as well, wasn't it?
Mercy is the mark of a great man.
Guess I'm just a good man.
Well, I'm alright.
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Originally posted by AG05:Quote:
LBJ
Yes, and his war was shiny and new as well, wasn't it?
Mercy is the mark of a great man.
Guess I'm just a good man.
Well, I'm alright.
Most certainly. Didn't Nixon run on a platform of getting us out of the 'Nam, though? How'd that work out?
Guess Obama has about 5.5 years left to get us out of Iraq before y'all start bitching about that, right?

Mike
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Not getting pulled into a partisan debate, just Clinton hate: Selling off the country piece by piece and raiding the reserves does not count as fiscally responsible, even if it balances the budget, it's artificial, not a sustainable balanced budget.
Other thoughts, If Whozit knows the Vapors then he's like 40, that's sad man. Also, Whozit, no offense, but I can't make a logical connection between mike's post and your response. Jes funnin'
But in other news, tomatoes have become our strongest currency.
Republicans earned fiscally responsible because the competition was Democrats. That's like winning a beauty contest against Al Franken. How they did was by simply not spending money. Then, they forgot how to not spend money, and became what they are today.
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5.5? Here's hoping his stint is up in 2013.
This does bring up a good question though. Which is worse (or better).
A fiscally responsible war monger, who brings frugal spending and economic prosperity while at the same time raining death and destruction on his foes overseas,
Or a peacenik who aviods conflict on an international front while sinking the nation into generations of debt with questionable (in terms of cost/benefit) social programs?
Also, I've always wondered this about the Clinton years: Eron, Andersen, and all that other shit came out just after Bush took office, right? Which leads me to believe that they didn't just start cooking the books once Bush was in. It had to have been an ongoing thing, even during the Clinton years. Which makes me wonder: How much of the economic prosperity that existed under Clinton was fraudulent? I'm not asking with any political objective, it's just something I'm curious about.
Mercy is the mark of a great man.
Guess I'm just a good man.
Well, I'm alright.
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