Watching firefly
POSTED BY: farscapeman
UPDATED: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:49
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I do believe gorram does mean 'goddamnit' and rutting is one for 'effing'. Yeah it's like ''frak' was for BSG.
I have to say that my favorite episode was Ariel. Simon's one of my early favorites of the show and I like how he dominated on this episode. Much was revealed about him. Seeing the city in Ariel is like seeing what the central planets/moons are like. We were used to seeing the canyons and the dirt and the third-world-ish ways for the border planets.
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Ah, Patchist, you caught one I missed. Yes, when I went to that Chinese translation website, they said that as well. About "rutting". I actually hadn't noticed the term when I watched the series--several times--until I saw it in the subtitles when I watched it with Jim. It's pretty obvious in both cases, actually, "gorramit" is so close to "goddamnit" and "rutting" is another word for "effing".
I'd like to find the time to learn Chinese, or at least the stuff used in Firefly, if nothing else. The problem is, I can't find anything on the net that's VERBAL...they "explain" the various intonations (since Chinese is a language where intonations can be everything), and it was too confusing...plus I have no way of knowing if I'm speaking it right. If I could find a site with verbalizations of the words, I'd go for it!
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That's how I took it as well, RW.
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"Gorram" was one of Joss' ways of getting the characters to cuss without being censored (cussing in Chinese was the other way). "Gorram" as a replacement for the big G*d*mn and "rutting" (or "ruttin") for the F-bomb is how I always took it.
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Ah, Patchist, you caught one I missed. Yes, when I went to that Chinese translation website, they said that as well. About "rutting". I actually hadn't noticed the term when I watched the series--several times--until I saw it in the subtitles when I watched it with Jim. It's pretty obvious in both cases, actually, "gorramit" is so close to "goddamnit" and "rutting" is another word for "effing".
I'd like to find the time to learn Chinese, or at least the stuff used in Firefly, if nothing else. The problem is, I can't find anything on the net that's VERBAL...they "explain" the various intonations (since Chinese is a language where intonations can be everything), and it was too confusing...plus I have no way of knowing if I'm speaking it right. If I could find a site with verbalizations of the words, I'd go for it!
If you're only looking for Firefly translations, I thought you said you had the 3 Companion Books - the script usually has the translations right there.
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Yes, I bought both...haven't read them, and they turned out to be something I'm not all that interested in. Given your comments, I may now. BUT, I also got "Finding Serenity" and "Serenity Found", and have read those from cover to cover and adored both. I can't describe what they are, perhaps "essays on everything Firefly & Joss" is the closest I can get, but they're GREAT.
Have you got a copy of Map of the Verse yet? It comes in foldup or rolled up version. I got one of each.
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Many feel Message has the most poignant and fitting end to the series. (...)
Yes, because the story originally flowed that way from the start, I feel the story does flow better that way.
'Many' has a way excluding many. :) Like yours truly. Despite The Message being a possibly good end, OiS, to me, is by far the best finale: it's grand, epic, and with the one "I can win this!" -- which still gives me the chills -- Joss brings a measure of resolution and closure, not just to River, but to the crew as a whole: you'll know they'll keep flyin'. It's like hearing the voice of Joss, gently whispering: "Do not worry so; it's going to be alright."
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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
"Gorram" was one of Joss' ways of getting the characters to cuss without being censored (cussing in Chinese was the other way). "Gorram" as a replacement for the big G*d*mn
I believe Joss meant to do more than just evading the censors. I strongly believe 'gorram' was supposed to be how actual Chinese folks would pronounce 'god damn'. The sinocized version of the English cuss, as it were; much like 'Godzilla' is the anglicized form of the Japanese 'Gojira'.
Much as I love Firefly, gotta say though, frak and frakkin' work better. :)
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Jewel:
Like I said, I got 'em but just glanced through 'em and discovered they were mostly the script, then when I got Finding Serenity and Serenity Found and LOVED those, I never went back.
Will do so, but like I said, I won't even try if I can't find something which gives me the actual oral translation...too much intonation for me to think I got anything right.
Tho' I did finally figure out what "gou se" means, watching an epi with Jim or another one with Choey, forget which (I insist on watching with them whenever they watch an epi, of COURSE!).
And no, haven't gotten map. Not particularly interested, and trying to save money. If I buy anything more FF oriented, it will be more books on Joss, etc. Those two were fascinating.
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Asarian: Hey, I hadn't caught the potential of "gorram" being how Orientals would pronounce "goddamn"...very good! I think you're right, by the way.
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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
"Gorram" was one of Joss' ways of getting the characters to cuss without being censored (cussing in Chinese was the other way). "Gorram" as a replacement for the big G*d*mn
I believe Joss meant to do more than just evading the censors. I strongly believe 'gorram' was supposed to be how actual Chinese folks would pronounce 'god damn'. The sinocized version of the English cuss, as it were; much like 'Godzilla' is the anglicized form of the Japanese 'Gojira'.
Much as I love Firefly, gotta say though, frak and frakkin' work better. :)
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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam
I always liked FRell and Dren myself.
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