Thank you, Barney Frank!
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UPDATED: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 22:08
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Originally posted by SignyM:
So now the entirely false rumor going around is that healthcare reform would allow the Feds to access your bank account.
Shit, man. What does it say when the ONLY ammunition the right-wing can come up with is complete and total fabrication???
And don't you think that after the first couple go-arounds about "death panels" and "Nazi medicine" that right-wingers would become at least a little wary of their right-wing bliars? Apparently not! Their gullibility know no bounds!
Huh. No surprise there, I'm afraid. After all, if the CARS program was going to hijack your computer, then I'm sure EVERY government program is going to hijack your computer.
Here's the thing, and if you didn't know it already, George W. Bush should have made it ABUNDANTLY clear to you, because he came right out and told you he was doing it: If "the government" wants to poke around your computer, you don't have a firewall secure enough to stop them. PERIOD. At BEST, you might delay them, as Frem has pointed out before. But in doing that, you're also really arousing their interest; what have you got that's so secret you have to hide it behind THAT level of security? So now you've just made yourself MORE of a target.
That is, IF they want to nose around your files. And do you really think they need YOUR computer to access your bank records? Hell, they've already got the bank's computers, via the Patriot Act. That's like saying they need to sneak in and steal your library card to see what books you've checked out. If they wanna know, they go to the source, not the end user.
Sheesh. I'm reminded of a Kliban cartoon, where a professor is whacking a dog on the head with a stick, yelling at the dog, "Think, goddam you - THINK!!!"
Mike
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I think someone should put a WHOLE LOT of security and protection onto a computer that contains nothing but pictures of cute puppies, rabbits, and kittens.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I think someone should put a WHOLE LOT of security and protection onto a computer that contains nothing but pictures of cute puppies, rabbits, and kittens.
YEEESSSSSS!!!!
Now you're thinking like an anarchist, Byte.\
And I'll bet you money that Frem has already done just that. If he ever pops up with a "real" e-mail address or contact info, I guarantee it will lead nowhere but to a box full of kittens, digitally speaking.
That's brilliant, really. It's also why I tend to pepper my e-mails and phone conversations with words like "bomb" and "explode" and "jihad" and the like. It's not like I think anyone's REALLY going to do anything or pay particular attention to me, but if they really want to, who am I to argue? And while they're at it - and claiming not to be - why not just go ahead and make sure that if they want to waste time and money looking at me and mine, I make sure that they waste a LOT of time and money digging up what, in the end, will amount to nothing at all.
And as Frem says, I say that in the full hope that they'll see it and read it, because even me being so brazen about it, they won't believe me.
Listen - you can almost hear the gears grinding as the machine chokes on its innards and gasps to a crawl...
Mike
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BOMB!! JIHAD JIHAD! HILLARY CLINTON IS A SKANK!!!!!!!!!!!
Think I got Big Brothers attention?
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Actually, Wulfie, you got their attention when you said a .308 round would decide whether Obama was the President or not...
Hint: The idea is to get the Echelon software to stumble and say, "Huh?" As such, dropping innocuous words into everyday conversation can do that, and then a human resource has to actually look or listen before ascertaining that this is all innocent chatter.
Talking about the President and referencing specific rifle rounds? That gets the attention of the Secret Service. Hope you life really IS in order, 'cause they can dig as long and hard as they want. That pressure in the roof of your mouth? That's the Secret Service up your ass...
Mike
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And don't you think that after the first couple go-arounds about "death panels" and "Nazi medicine" that right-wingers would become at least a little wary of their right-wing bliars? Apparently not! Their gullibility know no bounds!
Actually, Sygnm, you're right about their gullibility. But only because they WANT to believe the worst. There are some who simply do not want Obama to be President, do not want his administration to do ANYTHING good, cannot believe that every single thing they do is not intended to harm innocent Americans in SOME way...
America is having a lot of trouble accepting change, especially the big change of a Black man in the White House. That's behind it for a lot of them; some are just dumb/ignorant Repubs who are incapable of thinking for themselves, some are ignorant people who mistrust the government whatever it does, etc.
Fear takes away a lot of independent thinking. How else would we have let Bush get away with everything he did?
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Well, I probably deserve that today, need a good kick in the backside. I still maintain that government isn't trustworthy, and if something ends all screwed up by this health plan bill, isn't going to do much for my non-existent faith in them.
I maintain that if the public at large hadn't trusted Bush and had been wary of government back when he was in office, we might not have gone along with Iraq.
I mean, I sure didn't and I didn't support the war from the very point Colin Powell went to speak to the UN on.
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And I'll bet you money that Frem has already done just that. If he ever pops up with a "real" e-mail address or contact info, I guarantee it will lead nowhere but to a box full of kittens, digitally speaking.
That's brilliant, really. It's also why I tend to pepper my e-mails and phone conversations with words like "bomb" and "explode" and "jihad" and the like. It's not like I think anyone's REALLY going to do anything or pay particular attention to me, but if they really want to, who am I to argue? And while they're at it - and claiming not to be - why not just go ahead and make sure that if they want to waste time and money looking at me and mine, I make sure that they waste a LOT of time and money digging up what, in the end, will amount to nothing at all.
And as Frem says, I say that in the full hope that they'll see it and read it, because even me being so brazen about it, they won't believe me.
Listen - you can almost hear the gears grinding as the machine chokes on its innards and gasps to a crawl...
No comment. All such information is in strict confidence which I respect.
I think Frem is angry at me at the moment, we had a small disagreement, and I think I told him some news he didn't want to hear. I knew I was doing it, but I also know that it's just that sort of news that sometimes you need to hear.
Frem, My point was simple: Not everything is an evil conspiracy, some things are just incompetence and corruption. Still, there's valuable information there, from a survival point of view, and sure, some of it may have been provided by someone we traditionally view as an enemy, and really, no change there, but no one is right or wrong 100% of the time, whether that's said corporation or little old me.
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Posted by Niki2:
...some are ignorant people who mistrust the government whatever it does, etc.
Not all who mistrust the government are ignorant, Niki. I don't trust the government, but I trust for-profit healthcare even less. They've already proven that they're completely willing to throw people to the wolves completely in the interests of upping their profits. Why would I ever believe they'll STOP doing that or do it for less profit?
So while I don't trust the government, I have a bit more trust that they're not going to sell me off to the best bidder.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Well, I probably deserve that today, need a good kick in the backside. I still maintain that government isn't trustworthy, and if something ends all screwed up by this health plan bill, isn't going to do much for my non-existent faith in them.
I maintain that if the public at large hadn't trusted Bush and had been wary of government back when he was in office, we might not have gone along with Iraq.
I mean, I sure didn't and I didn't support the war from the very point Colin Powell went to speak to the UN on.
You shouldn't be kicked in the ass for that. You should embrace it. I knew Bush was lying the second he said we were going to wage war on "terror", because you can't declare war on an emotion. If he had said we were going to bomb the living fuck out of Afghanistan, or the Taliban, or just Al Qaeda, in direct retaliation for 9/11, I'd have said, "Go get 'em!" In fact, I did say that. But he decided he wanted to kill the idea of terrorism, and I think rather than kill the idea, he propagated it and made it more popular. Bush became the best recruiting tool Al Qaeda has ever had, and then Iraq only added to that.
Mike
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Originally posted by Niki2:
America is having a lot of trouble accepting change, especially the big change of a Black man in the White House. That's behind it for a lot of them; some are just dumb/ignorant Repubs who are incapable of thinking for themselves, some are ignorant people who mistrust the government whatever it does, etc.
You know . . . the only people I hear making a big stink about a black man being in the White House - the ones playing the race card, so to speak - are the Democrats. I know not a single person personally who has trouble with Obama's skin color. Doing so would show and extreme lack of intelligence and high level of stupidity. I know, I know "That describes Republicans to a tee!"
Wrong.
Saying that all Republicans or conservatives (or as you said, "a lot of them") are that way makes one guilty of needlessly lumping an entire group into the same category just because of the stupid, mindless actions of a minuscule percentile of that group. Much like if someone like me were to say that a lot of liberals are brain-dead, pot-smoking hippie socialists. Obviously, that is not the case and I don't advocate that myself.
So what I'm saying is please don't make such broad generalizations.
Or at least admit that there are also dumb, ignorant Dems who can't think for themselves either.
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