Watching firefly
POSTED BY: farscapeman
UPDATED: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:49
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Okay, now double damn, I just went back and read through the entire thread. I missed some fun stuff...but you can be sure I've bookmarked this thread and will be with you to the VERY end, each epi, to see what you think.
I'm not talking about my favorite epi until you've seen them all, so there! 
But you just saw Bushwhacked, so okay. It's one of my least favorites, because of the darkness, but the interview scenes do knock my socks off.
And you are DEFINITELY not alone; as my previous post described Jim, you can get an image when I tell you Jayne is ABSOLUTELY his favorite character. I've been thinking since I've seen it this many times around; I think Jayne, in his way, fulfills somewhat the same place as Spike did in Buffy: the "outsider" who gets all the great throwaway lines. In Spike's case it's the "bright outsider" who sees what really is outside the teenage angst, in Jayne's, the "dumb outsider" who gets to make the stupid remarks but who also sees the "grittier" version of what's going on. What do you think?
I got to meet Adam briefly a few months back at our WonderCon; he's much better looking in person! A real sweetie, too...although I've been told his politics and how he posted got pretty "Jayne-ish". Can you imagine these lucky people getting to POST back and forth to these guys??? The other board I was on, Joss, Nathan AND Adam were at one time members...I'm sooo jealous!!!
One of the things that continues to blow me away is the cast themselves. I've now heard each and every one of them remark to the effect that Firefly was the best work they ever did; just recently someone posted Nathan mentioning at ComiCon that they'd just had a "reunion barbecue"...seven years later?? When have you ever heard of such a thing?
They all seem so amazingly real, in the way they made it a family, not only cast (and of course Joss), but crew, writers...they all seem to respect each other and CARE about one another...again...what other series...?
Oh, I dunno if you picked it up or not, but in this thread anyway I didn't see any follow-up to your question about Chinese and why it's spoken. From background stuff I got that Joss decided the two existing superpowers, China/USA, would be the ones most likely to create the "Alliance" once we moved out into the 'verse. Ergo, while there are influences from all of Earth That Was (as you'll see in Shinding...boy, will'ya!), everyone speaks Chinese and English comfortably, and there's a strong Oriental influence to be seen everywhere. If someone else explained that to you, forgive my repetition.
Keep updating us, Far; I guarantee I'll be here, and we'll bring it to the top every time so others come by. It's wunnnnnerful to follow someone else's "first time thru"!
Enjoy Shindig; admittedly another not-one-of-my-favorites, but if you don't come away an absolute smitten softie about Kaylee, well, there's something wrong wit 'ya!
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What's going on?
Not a thing. Right Kaylee?
Nope. Not a gorram thing.
Looks like a thing to me.
He's just a mite suspicious.
Then,
Jayne. You'll scare the women.
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After NIKI2's post, I think a good suggestion for those who are rationing themselves would be to take each opportunity to re-watch the episodes they have already watched, or at least the last few, leading up to the newest one. Like when watching Shindig on Saturday, watch Pilot Serenity on Thursday, Train Job and Bushwhacked on Friday, and then the new one on Sat. Or similar.
Just thought of it, and wanted to pass it along. Never would have thought of it because the concept of rationing out a show this good is beyond my comprehension. But good luck to you with it. I am far too impulsive and impatient with quality works, gotta immerse myself in it, and many here were like junkies, watching marathons to get through all the eps. I'm thinking another catchphrase would be "Firefy junkie" but I suspect it was already coined before my time.
I am making this point to you newbs because this is one of those rare shows which you can rewatch many times, and still see new things in each episode, and see things differenty after seeing the following episode or 2, or the whole series. So reviewing the last few episodes before the new one should be enjoyable - many of us still enjoy the 50th viewing, still catching things we didn't before (how did I miss that?).
And NIKI2: it seems like you have not read the Official Companions or Visual Companions (one for Serenity, 2 Vols for Firefly), and I think you would really enjoy them. Should still be able to order them from your bookstore.
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Hello everyone I have a different view because I used to work night shift and did not know firefly existed and had seen the movie in dvd only. A few months ago I started to watch firefly on reruns in Australia and was hooked! I cannot believe such a great show was canceled. When you look back and see the first season of star trek TNG and think this was crap with their gay music in the back ground, I think how was this left on the air and firefly was not? They would have made a lot of money if firefly was to continue for a few years. The writing and camera work was far superior than anything else out there.
btw went out and bought the dvd's so i can watch the show over and over
I love it! It's like wiping your ass with silk.
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Wow! SOme great threads. Like the thought own why chinese. If gorum is a replace meant swear what is it's meaning. Is gorum chinese for god? or is the meaning never told. I don't want firefly to go to quickly so the once a week alows me to l ive with each show longer. Mull them over. Think about em before going on to the next one. Thanks For taking the time to post I reall, really enjoyed reading t hem.
ps
peacekeeper, is that a farscape refrence?
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Quote:Do you mean the tag line about the grace of age?.If so,yes.It's from Chricton Kicks.(s4,ep1).It's what the female pilot of Rovu(leviathan that John has been trapped on)says to him when he apologises for having to take her away from the burial space.Full quote is,"No dream is guaranteed Commander.With the grace of age we learn to accept."
Originally posted by farscapeman:
Wow! SOme great threads. Like the thought own why chinese. If gorum is a replace meant swear what is it's meaning. Is gorum chinese for god? or is the meaning never told. I don't want firefly to go to quickly so the once a week alows me to l ive with each show longer. Mull them over. Think about em before going on to the next one. Thanks For taking the time to post I reall, really enjoyed reading t hem.
ps
peacekeeper, is that a farscape refrence?
Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!
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Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
After NIKI2's post, I think a good suggestion for those who are rationing themselves would be to take each opportunity to re-watch the episodes they have already watched, or at least the last few, leading up to the newest one. Like when watching Shindig on Saturday, watch Pilot Serenity on Thursday, Train Job and Bushwhacked on Friday, and then the new one on Sat. Or similar.
Just thought of it, and wanted to pass it along. Never would have thought of it because the concept of rationing out a show this good is beyond my comprehension. But good luck to you with it. I am far too impulsive and impatient with quality works, gotta immerse myself in it, and many here were like junkies, watching marathons to get through all the eps. I'm thinking another catchphrase would be "Firefy junkie" but I suspect it was already coined before my time.
I am making this point to you newbs because this is one of those rare shows which you can rewatch many times, and still see new things in each episode, and see things differenty after seeing the following episode or 2, or the whole series. So reviewing the last few episodes before the new one should be enjoyable - many of us still enjoy the 50th viewing, still catching things we didn't before (how did I miss that?).
And NIKI2: it seems like you have not read the Official Companions or Visual Companions (one for Serenity, 2 Vols for Firefly), and I think you would really enjoy them. Should still be able to order them from your bookstore.
Jewel, I agree with every word. I'm enjoying watching them again with both Jim and Choey, and I would add that watching them once with the subtitles on opened up whole new doors for me in things I missed, throwaway lines, and things I didn't hear correctly before.
Yes, I bought both...haven't read them, and they turned out to be something I'm not all that interested in. Given your comments, I may now. BUT, I also got "Finding Serenity" and "Serenity Found", and have read those from cover to cover and adored both. I can't describe what they are, perhaps "essays on everything Firefly & Joss" is the closest I can get, but they're GREAT.
I wouldn't advise getting ANY of the above before seeing the entire series and the movie, tho', for obvious reasons.
I haven't the self-control you do, either, once I'd seen the first epi, I gobbled like crazy. Didn't sit through it all in one night, tho', recognizing if I did I'd be too overloaded and groggy to appreciate it, but it didn't take a week, fer shore!
Jim said yesterday that rewatching them right away was something he enjoyed, that he got a fuller appreciation before moving on to the next one. I was in too much of a hurry! After "Out of Gas" this weekend by the way, he was angrier than at any previous epi--I assume it will be one of his favorites--saying it was so well done, he's amazed all over again at the stupidity...etc. Of course he's right. Never seen him so head-up about ANYTHING before; have to admit, while it makes me angry too, have to giggle at his level of anger. Fascinating.
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Farscape; I admire your self-control as I am admiring Jim's. It's a good thing...unfortunately some of us don't possess it!
Yesterday I went to some sites which deal with Chinese from Firefly (there are numerous ones, natch). They said gorram is a made-up word, a replacement for "goddamn" used by Joss to avoid censorship, just as "frik" was used Battlestar Gallactica.
BSG, by the way, is why I forked out the extra dough to get more cable. It didn't catch me, but I ended up with BBCA as well, which brought me Torchwood and Dr. Who, which I thoroughly enjoy. Interesting what you find by accident. An Ozzie friend had recommended Torchwood, but I'd figured I'd have to rent the DVDs...what a treat to find it on TV, except that there was only the last epi of that season then it was gone (until Children of Earth), so I ended up having to rent it anyway. Still, fun!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
Jim said yesterday that rewatching them right away was something he enjoyed, that he got a fuller appreciation before moving on to the next one. I was in too much of a hurry! After "Out of Gas" this weekend by the way, he was angrier than at any previous epi--I assume it will be one of his favorites--saying it was so well done, he's amazed all over again at the stupidity...etc. Of course he's right. Never seen him so head-up about ANYTHING before; have to admit, while it makes me angry too, have to giggle at his level of anger. Fascinating.
I have to say, Niki, that I can truly sympathize with Jim. Out of Gas is probably my absolute favorite episode. The editing and storytelling are just phenomenal. The ending, when Mal is remembering the first time he sees Serenity . . . just puts a smile of pure unadulterated joy on my face. You see the "love at first sight" look he has and you feel the same thing.
On my first viewing of the series, that episode was when I really started to get flustered. One would expect that a cancelled show would have declined in quality over the run (and thus the reason for cancellation), but GORRAMIT!!! this show just kept getting better and better. By the last episode I was like, "Wha . . . ? But . . . . How could . . . . . ? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" Fortunately we got Serenity. I do think, however, the movie lost a bit of the spirit of the series and I think it's because part of the heart was missing. Greg Edmonson's music really made the series, so why Joss didn't push for Universal to sign him on as composer for the film makes me scratch my head. Perhaps he did. I dunno.
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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"
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You took the time to look up the word for little old me ?thanks!
A farscape fan is here!! Great show huh?
I am going slow and rewatching the episode later down the week. As good as I heard the show was I didn't want a poof then it was gone kind of thing. Glad I have the movie to wrap it all up with.
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