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The Guild, Serenity, Mal, and Inara

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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:52 PM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
And then there's that speech he gave the crew after Miranda. There was no: we're gonna die anyway, so let's die getting those bastards back! The message he gave his crew was: there's something right that needs to be done, and I'm gonna do it. He was doing something right, not doing something vengeful.

I don't see fatalistic in any part of his speech. I see a cause found, a belief formed. Joss put all that in the script. Pretty clearly, I think.




I don't disagree with that. Out of the two choices (running and likely dying vs. being heroes and likely dying) he picks the latter because he believes in that particular cause.

Doesn't mean that I feel he regains any meaningful sense of belief for anything else, though.

We seem to be pretty set on disagreeing about this.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:12 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Beer brewing! We're running moonshine on these here boards! :D

Back in college, there was a point when I could have taken a brewing class, but they required everyone to be twenty one.

Bummer! You don't need a class though. All you need to know is to keep everything really clean. Well, and as my brewing bible book says: Relax and have a homebrew LOL! But I guess you wouldn't have that option. :(

I learned to brew from a boyfriend. I started with mead, which I still brew now and then. Meads are fun because you can't really buy good ones, and they last a long time. My oldest are 4-5 years old and quite tasty.

Beer is simpler. I've brewed without kits a few times, but the kits are just so simple and always come out good. Yesterday I started an Irish stout, and it's a bubbling away like mad now!


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I also think maybe I know what that belief might be. Love keeps her in the air. I think that may be foreshadowing. Does this reflect on the upcoming leaked Inara story twist?
Hmm... interesting thought. I hope *something* happens! I really don't want that plot twist going where it could go...



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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:13 PM

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
And then there's that speech he gave the crew after Miranda. There was no: we're gonna die anyway, so let's die getting those bastards back! The message he gave his crew was: there's something right that needs to be done, and I'm gonna do it. He was doing something right, not doing something vengeful.

I don't see fatalistic in any part of his speech. I see a cause found, a belief formed. Joss put all that in the script. Pretty clearly, I think.




I don't disagree with that. Out of the two choices (running and likely dying vs. being heroes and likely dying) he picks the latter because he believes in that particular cause.

Doesn't mean that I feel he regains any meaningful sense of belief for anything else, though.

We seem to be pretty set on disagreeing about this.

Yep - certainly seems we've hit that point!

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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:01 PM

Platonist was telling me she heard Joss said some Very Scary Things at one of the conventions, something about

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"Dying with a capital 'D'"


But I haven't heard the exact soundbite yet, so I'm holding out hope. I mean, so long as he doesn't say, definitively, that she's GOING TO, there's still wiggle room, I say.

And if the end of the Serenity movie, with Inara and then that speak following one after the other and seeming related, if that's foreshadowing, there may yet be a happy ending. Or, happy-ish at any rate, this is Joss.

...At least we'll always have fanfic.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:26 PM

I've got to stay off of You Tube and stay away from San Diego,


Word Of God Inara's Secret spoiler ahead:




SPOILERS!




SPOILERS!





SPOILERS!



at 6:00


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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:49 PM

Uh oh.

Well, I don't have the plug-in to watch videos at work, but I'll check it out when I get home. Maybe it's not so bad... *crosses fingers*

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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:53 PM

He just confirms that

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dying-with-an-ing

is her secret. I call that a hopeful choice of words.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:01 PM

I hope so. :) That's kind of been my take on this the whole time, you know, kind of my position to hold up my internal mantra of "please don't do it, please don't do it..."

It seems to me, if a writer has a leak for their story to the general public, their reaction would have to be to find a way to misdirect and mislead so they can still have the same impact when they get to the reveal, you know? It doesn't seem like Joss would be confirming a major plot twist just because someone got Morena to spill.

In fact, I also wonder if this wasn't a ploy, and the original questioner wasn't a plant. Mal and Inara had always been my favourite part of Firefly (their banter, too funny!), but when this came out, I have to admit, it really made me a lot more interested in Inara and her characterization.

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Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:55 AM

What I like is the use of the finger quotations for the “ing” part, so I agree, there is hope for her.

Doesn’t Joss sound irritated over the whole spoiler? Yeah, he’s clearly irritated.

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Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:17 AM

Well, that's fans for you. We sniff and ferret. Frustrating, but he's probably used to it.

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