Pirate News sould have posted this before I did....

POSTED BY: whozit
UPDATED: Monday, August 10, 2009 18:09
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KWICKO

Monday, August 10, 2009 3:45 AM

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Originally posted by gripper:
Uh...did you happen to miss the part where I said you don't hurt people for mere disagreements???Come on,there IS a BIG difference between retaliation for violence and killing because your worldview/religious interpretation was offended.

So what was the violence done to us by the Iraqi people?

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Case in point-calling me a "teabagger"? Offensive as hell,both for the gutter reference and smearing a LOT of people who rightfully feel that we are all taxed enough already(too much,if you ask me).But did I call him out?Nope-I figure if he meant it as an insult ,then he is a punk.If not,no foul.

I meant it in the sense that the "tea-party" people have had their movement and cause completely appropriated by big-money right-wing lobbying groups and conservative special interest groups, who are using those people as their proxies to do their bidding. They're whoring those people out, only they aren't even paying them for it. And the people being used seem only too happy to keep sucking on the nuts of the corporations who want everything to stay the same, because that means more profit for them and less money for you. So yes, when I say "tea-bagger", I *DO* mean it as an insult - just like when you and your kind use the word "lib'rul" as an insult. Hey, it's not MY fault you lot started stapling tea bags to your heads. If you didn't know what the term was before, consider yourself educated now.

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OTOH,when you have a person/group that has and continues to perpetrate violence on ANYONE not with the program;well they got to go.

Ah, so I can expect to see you at the town hall meetings ushering out those who try to mob the congresspeople there, and those who burn them in effigy. Right? You'll help keep them in line, right? Because, as you said, "they got to go".

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THAT is the "SOB's I refer to when I say "just kill the SOBs".
Don't get me worng-insult me badly enough ;and I will throw with King Kong.But no,I do NOT mix my apples and oranges.

So if I disagree with right-wingers, if I can show where right-wingers have continually called for violence and acted out in violent ways against those who don't share their beliefs, then in your view I'd be completely justified in saying about them, "just kill the sons of bitches", right?

Good to know; I'll file that away.

GRIPPER

Monday, August 10, 2009 5:27 PM

Salman Pak was where Hussein trained terrorists to take over aircraft with items allowed in carry on until 09-11-01.Hussein bankrolled homicide bombers in Israel.Husseion killed a LOT more of his own people deliberately,then we have by accident.
Did some peckerwood inbreds at Abu Graibdo some stupid,vindictive shit?Yes.Did they get burned for it.Yes.Should MORE people have?You betcha.But lets face it-none of that comes close to th eexample I already gave regarding torture vs.duress.
You see,when we kill non-combatants,9 times out of 10 its collateral damage-more often than not because the jihadist scum are using them for cover.You know what they call body armor?Hugiing a kid to your chest.Last time I checked we were not stuffing Down Syndrome kids into suicide vests.Nor were we using other quaint methods of coercion to get someone behind the wheel of a car bomb.The jihadists ,whether they are local secartarian factios settling old scores,or "foreign fighters" from other countries LIKE to hit people in markets,mosques,schools.Honestly,I have NO problem seeing that they find the answere to that question"what happens when we die?".

GRIPPER

Monday, August 10, 2009 5:30 PM

Oh,and regarding the "wife beating "question:I got no problem bending a few limbs of THEIRS in the wrong direction ,either...I got jugged in county for a bit when my ex's sister got a broken nose form the "love of HER life" in front of me-He dropped the charges against me when I said I HOPED he 'd press-most likely we would have been in lock up in the same place.

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Monday, August 10, 2009 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by gripper:
Salman Pak was where Hussein trained terrorists to take over aircraft with items allowed in carry on until 09-11-01.

re: Salman Pak, from Wikipedia:
Knight Ridder reporters Jonathan S. Landay and Warren P. Strobel noted in November 2005 that "After the war, U.S. officials determined that a facility in Salman Pak was used to train Iraqi anti-terrorist commandos."[Seattle Times, 1 November 2005, p. A5].

Seymour Hersh notes that "Salman Pak was overrun by American troops on April 6. Apparently, neither the camp nor the former biological facility has yielded evidence to substantiate the claims made before the war [that the camp was used for terrorist training]."[10] Douglas MacCollam wrote in the July/August 2004 issue of the Columbia Journalism Review that "There still remain claims and counterclaims about what was going on at Salman Pak. But the consensus view now is that the camp was what Iraq told UN weapons inspectors it was — a counterterrorism training camp for army commandos."[11]

Seems you might very well be wrong on the first statement of your post. I don't have evidence to contradict the consensus of various experts and insiders. Do you? If not, your credibility is lacking.

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