Pirate News sould have posted this before I did....
POSTED BY: whozit
UPDATED: Monday, August 10, 2009 18:09
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Hello,
It's because it's the government.
When governments start collecting information on people who disagree with them, you're only a hop, skip, and jump from a hearing on Unamerican Activities. Or worse.
Probably Obama intends no such thing, but sooner or later you get a Nixon, and then such information may find itself misused. So we don't trust the government to collect information on political enemies, even if they seem to have pure intentions.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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"When governments start collecting information on people who disagree with them ..."
Hellloooo ... 10% of ALL people having their calls traced ... secret political spying programs at Cheney's request ... people being encouraged to turn in their neighbors ... libraries being required to turn over records of what you take out - without letting you know you're being monitored ... where have you BEEN all these years ?
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Hello Rue,
Where have I been?
I've been a hop, skip, and jump from a hearing on Unamerican Activities. Or worse.
That was a general statement about when government does these things. And once again, I must stress, these things were not born with Bush. Nor will they die with him.
Obama helped to make sure of that, and his decision to do so was very disappointing to me.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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I THINK you can get ne of those Obama/JOker t-shirts over at cafepress.com.....count me in for at least three or four.
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Originally posted by gripper:
I THINK you can get ne of those Obama/JOker t-shirts over at cafepress.com.....count me in for at least three or four.
There ya go - Obama's economic stimulus plan is working!!!
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yep,confirmed and in stock for $22.50 a pop...several different designs are out already...just the thing to balance out the "how's that hope and change working for you?",and "Nobama" stickers on the car.
Now,if and when the country finally come to its senses and tosses out this Chavez wannabe,maybe they can also show the door to McCain,his idiot daughter,Snowe,Collins,Naplitano and Gregg...See?I don't play favorites-socialists or socialist -lite-I despise them all.
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Originally posted by gripper:
yep,confirmed and in stock for $22.50 a pop...several different designs are out already...just the thing to balance out the "how's that hope and change working for you?",and "Nobama" stickers on the car.
Now,if and when the country finally come to its senses and tosses out this Chavez wannabe,maybe they can also show the door to McCain,his idiot daughter,Snowe,Collins,Naplitano and Gregg...See?I don't play favorites-socialists or socialist -lite-I despise them all.
Then you'd agree that the last eight years were the biggest mistake in recent memory...
Mike
Sweeping generalizations are always wrong!
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About 40-45% were...vs.damn close to 100% of the current.Don't get me wrong-I was one of the guys who did NOT pull the lever for the Shrub in the PRIMARY(I was a Keyes guy)...virtually everything I disagree with and dislike both bush Sr. and Jr. over I knew before the general election.
Unfortunately,I believed then and still believe now that we were given a choice between two bad selections in the general election.
Given my beliefs and impulses,I'd vote for Paul/Palin ticket,a Hunter/Tancredo ticket,a Lieberman/Keyes ticket...hell,drag Zell Miller out of retiremant and draft him to get on the ticket with Paul.Just pick SOMEONE with a clue and a moral grounding in the Constitution,who does NOT believe that evil can be reasoned with.
Take Ron Paul- dometically,I think he is great-overseas policy?A little TOO pure a Libertarian.But paitr him up with Hunter ?Or Keyes(not that it would happen,he got tossed under the bus by the RINO's in the party)?
What I saw going into the 2008 election was a country so down on th eoutgoing administration(some fo rgood reasmns,others;not so much) thta they drank deeply from the Personality cult KoolAde....and the hangover is jsut STARTING to get felt.
How many of the civil liberties activists that freaked when the Bush crowd wanted to eavesdrop on phone conversations between americans and known affiliate organizations that front for global jihad even acknowledge that little missive from the WH Commuications director telling Americans to channel their inner Brownshirt and dime out their neighbors RE policy disagreement?Or take PN;When PirateNews is bad,he is very ,very bad...but when he is GOOD,why even a Judai-phobe like him posts things that I agree with(Shalom,PN;I like you despite it all!).
Ya gotta understand this:I loathe statist control freaks and aspiring totalitarians irrespective of whether they have an "R" or a "D" next to their name.I also know from experience that there ARE folks out there in th eworld who WOULD gladly cut your throats and take charge of your kidsfor no other reason then "you are not one of them".So ,YES;I do support the intent (if not all of the planning and execution) of the GWOT.I part company from them in a few areas;trt=ying to do it on the cheap,trying to go too light,trying not to involve or engage the population at large.In many ways the RINO's mirror the worst of the Dems-they try to convince us mere mortals that compiant helplessness is the same thing as safety.
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"Obama helped to make sure of that, and his decision to do so was very disappointing to me."
If it's any consolation - McCain would have been worse, seeing as Cheney would have been running the show behind the scenes - as is his normal practice.
You need to get with the groups who are fighting the legal basis for all of this: the EFF is the best one I can think of right now. Though you may find yourself uncomfortable rubbing elbows with so many damn lib'ruls.
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Hey,I knew McCamnesty was a bad choice too...MccainFeingold,blcoking acryaul GOOD SC nominees(like Estrada),constantly running off at th emouth RE the so called "gun show loophole".
Choosing between Obama and McCain was (for me ,at least ) like deciding whether or not to get your leg sawed off at the hip ,or belwo the knee.
I kne wthe fix was in when Hunter and Tancredo could not gfet any traction,Huckabee an dKen Doll Romney had their phony little soap opera,and th eonly GOOD thing McCain did(pick Palin for a running mate) had her dodging cheap shots from MCCAIN's campaign staff as much as the MSM/Democrat operatives....Hell,I said it before-she ain't perfect,but she comes a LOT closer to my beliefs and impulses than McCain,Romney or whoever else the MSM tells us would be a good pick.hey,thats show biz......
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