May the Gods forgive us.
POSTED BY: Fremdfirma
UPDATED: Friday, August 15, 2025 14:25
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There's only one act in all the world I consider sacrilegious blasphemy, and sixty four years ago today, we committed it.
May we be forgiven, and may it never, EVER happen again.
-F
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I suspect they wont.
I haven't studied the history of it in depth, but it seems to me that it didn't even need to happen. Basically just the sickest weapons testing ever ordered.
SergeantX
"It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah"
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Spoken like a true traitor. You need to go to Pearl. Thank God for Genreal LeMay. SAC kept you from being fried by the Soviets. The A bomb was nothing compared to his fire bombing of Japan.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
There's only one act in all the world I consider sacrilegious blasphemy, and sixty four years ago today, we committed it.
Cannibalism? Your fine with that. Child Rape? I guess you see that as ok too. Dropping a couple really big bombs on a country that started a war with us? Can't do that.
If your referring to the atomic bomb...cry me a river. The Japs asked for it. They even said "pretty please" and I'm sure that somewhere deep down in their warrior culture they were grateful. I'm only sorry it took us so many years to make it happen.
It was war, a war they started, a war they intended to fight to the bitter end. Well we reinvented "the bitter end" and in doing so saved millions of American lives. Brings to mind the 'brings a knife to a gun fight' line.
On behalf of the countless Americans, Japanese, and other persons who lost their lives because of the Empire of Japan...I accept Japan's apology for bombing Pearl Harbor...oops, looks like they forgot to apologize to us. China, yes, Korea, yes, Asian nations, yup...US, no.
Official Obama policy is that only the US need apologize for anything. He's very sorry about that.
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Hero, FF is from Michigan. Never mentions General Sherman or Custer. What Sherman did to the south is treason and war crimes. Then good ole Custer. The Southern Cheyenne was at peace with the US. He didn't fair well with Souix did he.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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Originally posted by PirateCat:
Hero, FF is from Michigan. Never mentions General Sherman or Custer. What Sherman did to the south is treason and war crimes. Then good ole Custer. The Southern Cheyenne was at peace with the US. He didn't fair well with Souix did he.
The Indians came out worse. Custer and the 7th got killed, the Indians were virtually wiped out as a nation.
As for Sherman...it was neither treason no war crimes. I'm not sure you know what those things are...or you don't really know what Sherman did. I'm from the South and note you fail to mention what Sheridan did in the Valley (which any Virginian will tell you was far worse then Sherman's march), but it was total war and it defeated the South. Absent Sherman and Sheridan the South would still have lost but perhaps remained undefeated, that would have been a national disaster (imagine Lee and Johnston dispersing their armies into the hills for a generation of partisan warfare).
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Official Obama policy is that only the US need apologize for anything.
Really? Can you point me to where this "official" U.S. policy is written down and put forth?
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What Sherman did to the south is treason and war crimes.
Yeah, he really would have been better off nuking the south. After all, they started a war with the U.S., and vowed to fight to the bitter end. Guess that end was a bit more bitter once the real Americans sacked the south and burned cities to the ground! Only a true traitor would be backing the south in that fight.
You should ask General Lee how he came out in that deal. Got his ass kicked and sent home with his tail between his legs, didn't he? Too much a coward to even fight to the finish! Typical rebel scum. Sherman should have done more.
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Kurt Vonnegut pointed out that the U S Army Air Corp killed nearly as many people in a number of air attacks with conventional weapons- at Dresden, and at a different city in Japan where the "firestorm" was first encountered, I've lost the name... ( Edited -- I was confusing the bombing of Kobe, where it happened first , with the fire bombing of Tokyo, 9–10 March, 1945, approximately 16 square miles of the city were destroyed and some 100,000 people are estimated to have died in the resulting firestorm, more than the immediate deaths of either the Hiroshima or Nagasaki atomic bombs.)
As he put it, from the POV of one of these bombers, " We should get a star after our names in the record book, we had to do it the hard way."
Not sayin' that Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't pretty vicious, nor arguing whether they were necessary or not, but they did convince the Japanese that we were capable of total destruction, and ruthless enough to do it. Wasn't the Surrender signed on, like, September 2, less than a month later?
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Hello,
Frem, before I decry that statement as a very narrow read in the history of dirty deeds, I will wait for you to elucidate.
For my own part, I consider certain acts of the Catholic Church in concert with Spain and Portugal to be more heinous than the bombings of Japan. We'd have literally had to reduce the whole nation to slag in order to match the genocide managed by people who preceded Hitler by a very wide margin.
I also suspect that had a land invasion of Japan occurred, that is precisely the end result the Japanese people would have had to look forward to. Via conventional bombardment and shore bombardment followed by the horrors of front-yard and back-yard warfare, the devastation would have been unthinkable.
The President shot his whole wad at the time (there were no other bombs ready to go at that moment) in hopes of avoiding just such a scenario. He succeeded. Just. It required an unprecedented interference in military matters by the Emperor of Japan to make it happen. There were many elements within Japan still set on fighting to the last.
So, again, I wait to see what it is about this event that ranks it as the most high of sins.
It can't be the destruction of cities...
Nor the death of men, women, and children...
Perhaps it is the lingering radiation that so troubles? That actually makes some sense, from a 'salting of the earth' perspective. It's about the only thing the world had never seen before.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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