Firefly is most like.....

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BYTEMITE

Friday, July 24, 2009 11:54 PM

You cut us deep there, you cut us real deep.

*sort of joking*

DMAANLILEILTT

Saturday, July 25, 2009 12:27 AM

i'd say that firefly, while not exactly like it, is most similar to Blake's 7.

GILLIANROSE

Saturday, July 25, 2009 12:39 AM

I still remember watching my first-ever episode of firefly (The Train Job), thinking, this doesn't bode well, the Captain appears to be Caleb...then Harris from Barney Miller showed up and started telling the Captain (ok, not Caleb) all the good things he'd done, and my heart leaped! I had found Casablanca in space! Cowboy Casablanca in Space! The scene between Mal and Book on the stairs, when Book praises Mal for sheltering the Tams, is so like the several supporting (expository) characters in Casablanca, going up to Rick Blaine and telling him "You fought on the Loyalist side in Spain. You ran guns to Ethiopia," and so on. I love the noir-ness of it, how Mal (like Rick) can never go home, how he "sticks his neck out for nobody," except when he does. Rick - the cynical former idealist drawn back into the fight against people who thought they knew, for all humanity, better. The outrageously beautiful woman, it's a secret why she's here, who makes eyes at our hero...That's Mal.

Not to mention Han Solo :)

PLAINJAYNE

Saturday, July 25, 2009 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by violyns:
Someone once told me that Firefly is like Cowboy Bebop. I haven't seen it yet, but Cowboy Bebop is sitting on my tv stand waiting for me. We'll see if that comparison holds after I watch it.

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Cowboy Bebop is okay, but it sure as the hell aint Firefly by any stretch of the imagination. Although Fay kind of makes me think of Our Mrs Reynolds...

Good music by the Seatbelts in Cowboy Bebop though, is worth hearing....

Day late an'a dollar short...Story of my ruttin' life!

TRAVELER

Saturday, July 25, 2009 1:12 AM

I see some similarity in Farscape. Both crews are going against authority. I also notice that Mal's and John's plans often go amiss. Take the instance where Mal is tied up in Liska's space station and compare it to John drooling on the floor of a secret Peacekeeper Base prison cell. Also note they were not locked up alone. Mal was with Wash. "Shut up", was Mal's choice of words for Wash. John was locked up with Stark. If you have watched Farscape you will know that was not much comfort, especially after sitting in the brain sucking chair. Did I mention they were both tortured in these episodes.

Both shows had humor. Rygel farting helium and Jayne opening his mouth. Fans of both these shows have asked why these two characters weren't flushed out the airlock. There may be a good argument for it, but both actually became important at times. Rygel was a good diplomat "conman" and Jayne could shoot a bad guy even when drugged and also lift heavy objects.

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SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:17 AM

In thinking about the BDM, and the series overall, I do get the impression that the great Casablanca may have inspired Joss in both style and execution.
Most specifically in the BDM. So good call, G-Rose, good call.

As I was sitting here trying to think of what the series reminded me of in my short time on this earth, I'm compelled to think of what someone else posted earlier regarding Star Wars (especially episodes 4,5,6) that Firefly was what amounts to a very grown-up and sophisticated (much more complex version of the Star Wars saga). I truly believe that Mal could have been Han Solo's son. Clint Eastwood in the Outlaw Josie Wales comes to mind as well.

But back to the BDM and Casablanca (one of my all-time favs). All the elements are there: characters, plot, story, humor, love, beautiful women, lost love, betrayal, Alliance, patriotism, smuggling, Strausser, Operative, secrets, resistance, heroism, some table-turning, and new friendships. Here's looking at you, kid!

The more I think of it, and the more I watch the BDM, the more I'm convinced that Firefly/Serenity was Joss' masterstroke, Buffy notwithstanding. We know Inara was looking to leave, from OiS, and we find Mal viewing a recording of her in his bunk. Later she returns, after the crew watches their awkward 'wave' - you almost half expect him to say "Of all the spaceships in all the Verse, in all the worlds, she walks into to mine."

I could see it, GillianRose, I could see it.

SGG

Tawabawho?

ZZETTA13

Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:14 PM

I want to say that Firefly in some regards reminds me a bit of “Ice Pirates” (imho) . Just along the lines of not taking itself too serious sometimes. I know Robert U. had no where near Mal’s charisma, but I thought the show was cute and funny and opened new ground. It just treated the idea of living in space as a mundane thing. You didn’t have to belong to any big Starship group of folk or rebel army out to defeat the evil robot clans. The people of Ice Pirates, as I remember were there just trying to hobble along and scratch out a living in the verse.

Z

WASHNWEAR

Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
You cut us deep there, you cut us real deep.

*sort of joking*

I appreciate that, ByteMite. I was totally joking, but that's not abundantly clear from my post...which is a paraphrase (and a sloppy paraphrase, at that) of a line delivered by Spock in the delightful Star Trek: TOS ep, "I, Mudd."

Quote:

Spock: Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers...that smell bad.

I was trying to cash in on the simile/metaphor aspect of the thing.

On a more responsive note, Firefly doesn't really remind me of much of anything in particular. There are sundry small details that put me in mind of this and that, but as several here have already said, taken as a whole it's pretty darn special.

A veritable Peter Pumpkinhead of a TV show...

donttalkbackjustdrivethecarshutyourmouthiknowwhatyouaredontsaynothinkeepyourhandsonthewheeldontturnaroundthisisforreal

Still...what would Rorschach do?

BYTEMITE

Sunday, July 26, 2009 12:20 AM

Oh, it's just the pain of there not being any more (right now). I'll get over it. :) I know you were joking.

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WASHnwear:
Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
You cut us deep there, you cut us real deep.

*sort of joking*

I appreciate that, ByteMite. I was totally joking, but that's not abundantly clear from my post...which is a paraphrase (and a sloppy paraphrase, at that) of a line delivered by Spock in the delightful Star Trek: TOS ep, "I, Mudd."
Quote:

Spock: Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers...that smell bad.

I was trying to cash in on the simile/metaphor aspect of the thing.

A pat on the back for me-- I got that one, right off; said to myself, "Self, somebody here is an Old Star Trek fan..."

Beyond that, GillianRose is onto something. In everything I've read or seen, I've never caught anybody comparing Firefly to Casablanca, or Mal to Rick Blaine. And yet , that is a pretty good comparison. "I stick my neck out for nobody," is exactly something Mal would say, even while he was doing it, as Rick did. And, "May have been the losing side, still ain't sure it was the wrong side," is exactly what Rick Blaine would have said about supporting Spain and Ethiopia.

Excellent call, girl...

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