If the rules were gone tomorrow

POSTED BY: Fremdfirma
UPDATED: Thursday, July 23, 2009 06:14
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AGENTROUKA

Monday, July 20, 2009 7:05 PM

As you can probably guess, it's not their own behavior many people would worry about, but that of others.

For example, I can very clearly imagine a vast increase in speeding and related accidents.

I know a number of people who'll start shop-lifting all over the place.

I can also think of a few child custody cases that would immediately take a turn to badness.

And what does "no rules" really mean? No laws? No one to enforce them? No social rules? Let's say you mean law and law enforcement, is it all magically gone in society as it stands right now?

Asking such a question without dicussing the long-term and short-term implications in a practical way is a bit disingenuious, since they would be a bit more than "minor adjustments".

LEADB

Monday, July 20, 2009 7:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
If the "Rules" were gone tomorrow.

Would you really change how YOU live, all that much ?
Run wild in the streets ?
Harm your fellow man ?

Or would you, simply go about your life as you do, with a few minor adjustments ?

I'd break down and actually get the gun I've pondered obtaining, train in it's use, and be prepared to use if the moral situation required it. Not sure if you consider it a minor adjustment or not; but I'd surely classify it as a 'middling' adjustment.

JAMERON4EVA

Monday, July 20, 2009 7:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Would you really change how YOU live, all that much ?
Run wild in the streets ?
Harm your fellow man ?

I'd make new rules, find some like minded folks, and we'd impose them.

Rule #1. No PN on RWED.
Rule #2. Add a meal between lunch and dinner (around 2:30).
Rule #3. No musical Ice Cream trucks.
Rule #4. Only persons owning apple trees may vote.
Rule #5. No speeding.
Rule #6. No murder without a license.
Rule #7. Limit number of sitcoms and reality shows on the networks...mandate scifi hours/week.
Rule #8. Proper BBQ preparation class required for graduation (with a standardized taste test).
Rule #9. Guns.
Rule #10. Restrict apple tree ownership.

The rest will just fall into place naturally.

Edited to add: Rule 11, no dogs eating dogs...no eating dogs by anybody. Licensed cat eating...ok.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

Hey, what about eating bats?

HERO

Monday, July 20, 2009 8:25 PM

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Originally posted by jameron4eva:
Hey, what about eating bats?

Thats up to you...I'd suggest hitting someone with one and taking their food.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

KWICKO

Monday, July 20, 2009 10:37 PM

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Rule #5. No speeding.

Rule #5. No Speed Limits.

There... fixed that for ya!

MISSTRESSAHARA

Monday, July 20, 2009 10:58 PM

Steal (*ahem* borrow) enough money to pay for 6 more season's of Firefly.

Well you said no rules.

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OUT2THEBLACK

Monday, July 20, 2009 11:40 PM

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CHRISISALL

Monday, July 20, 2009 11:52 PM

No hard & fast "rules"?

This is how I would live my life then:

Mostly the same, but I would stop at stop signs & observe the speed limits (former ones, I assume) at my own discretion.

And make fun of lawyers more openly.

The laughing Chrisisall

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:25 AM

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Asking such a question without dicussing the long-term and short-term implications in a practical way is a bit disingenuious, since they would be a bit more than "minor adjustments".

Very disingenuous indeed - but the intent was to see folks *reactions* to the concept itself, more than get the questions answered.

Funny how folks fear their fellow man - which isn't without merit, mind you, but I wanted to illustrate very clearly WHY people, as a general rule are not "ready" for self-rule/anarchism - they do NOT have the required mentality for it to function properly, and it would devolve into chaos and disorder, which is despite propaganda to the contrary, a very different thing than anarchism.
(Again, removing legal rules by no means instantly destroys social rules, which every human society has, whether codified into laws or not.)

Most folk it seems would see to their defenses and go about their business much in the fashion that they do - very few would actively choose predation as a lifestyle, but it's worth pointing out that the one most bent on doing so is technically a Govt employee, which oughta tell ya something, neh ?

I find it ironic that most folk worry not about themselves, but those mysterious, nebulous "other people"... which are out there, sure, but I suspect not in the numbers or degree which the folk offering to control us all "for our own good" would have us believe.

Maybe y'all folk might consider a little faith in your fellow man - not sayin risk your neck or your stuff over it, but perhaps not lookin at everyone else as an imminent threat to you and yours might be a happier, healthier way to live your life, eh ?

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:39 AM

And this required it's own post.

On a personal note: for them that don't know, I do private security now, thanks to uncle scams murderous taxes driving me out of the taxi biz.

And I have prettymuch taken over coverage of site three personally cause it's close to my residence and I enjoy the work.
(not to mention my lazy ass can use the exercise..)

So, that said - for liability and other reasons, I carry no weapon on duty, which is a bit of a shocker to folks who know me, given my rabidity about it - but I decided to commit to an experiment since the opportunity presented itself.

Now, the people of the apartment complex community that is site three are very fond of me, I enjoy my job and happen to be personable, effective and polite - without that stupid jackboot complex which the management has had real problems with regarding their previous security services, I regard these folk with a familial kind of protectiveness, and respect their privacy and persons.

And so, as a gesture of my faith in those human bonds, I carry a standard-issue sports whistle on a lanyard - in the vanishingly rare case that I might wind up in a situation beyond my ability to deal with personally.

The question is, should I ever find the need to sound that whistle, would members of this community actually come to my aid ?

Me, I'd lay damn good odds on yes, else I wouldn't be carrying the silly thing in the first place.

-Frem
*PS - One of the residents with a similar taste in literature (who calls me a Hobbit cause I am short and slightly hedonistic) chose to refer to it as the "Horn of Gondor", once I told him it's purpose.

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