I told you they renewed Dollhouse because they didn't want to piss off the Whedon fans...

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JAMERON4EVA

Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:56 AM

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Originally posted by FollowMal:
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For whatever reason, I don't care. I think Dollhouse is a great show and I am happy to see it continue. I hope they give it a better time slot. I could see Fringe and Dollhouse back to back. They complement each other.

I'm going to be completely different here and say that I don't think they care about the Joss Whedon fans at all. I think they're joking (haha! ) when they say stuff like they're afraid of how much email they're going to get if they piss off the fans.

I think they care about the money. Period. They like making money with their own, off of their own and in this case they kill three birds with one stone. They keep Joss ( who they really want to work with ), they don't have to come up with a fresh idea, but only invest in something already going and seeing as they own it, lock, stock and barrel, they stand to make good money off of DVD sales.

I don't think they think very much about Firefly. I think they'd think about it if it would make them money, but it's not going to right now, so they aren't thinking about it right now. Maybe that will change after a couple of years of DollHouse, but I doubt it. DollHouse will be the new focus.

The folks that canceled Firefly at Fox, are no longer at Fox. Completely different people. They aren't profiting off of anything current of Joss'.

Traveler, I agree with you. DollHouse is a good show, I'm enjoying it for as long as it lasts. I'd LOVE to see it paired with Fringe!

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They may not be the same people, but there making the same choices, cancelling DARK ANGEL, FIREFLY, and now TSCC, Those are conciouse choices to piss off anyone remotly in sci-fi. The only vice i have against FIREFLY, is that FOX cancelled DARK ANGEL to put it on, but look at how FOX cancelled DARK ANGEL, they told the cast that theyed pick it up for a third season, and the day of the announcement, "Sorry, but we have to cancell you, but i hope we hope you'll watch our new show FIREFLY, it'll be good, we have big prospects for it." In the end FIREFLY got put in the pipe like DARK ANGEL, don't get me wrong, i love FIREFLY, but i loved DA just a smidggen more.

Logan - "Maybe we got screwed out of livibng in a time where we could hang out for the aftyernoon in a caf'e someplace, wearing $2,000 wristwatches, planning our next vacation. But the world got a whole lot meaner all of the sudden. Wasn't supposed to, but it did. So now it's back to the law of the jungle- predators and victims."

Max - " And you still think you can do something to change that?"

Logan - " With your help."

-"Dark Angel : Pilot"

FOLLOWMAL

Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:08 AM

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Originally posted by jameron4eva:

They may not be the same people, but there making the same choices, cancelling DARK ANGEL, FIREFLY, and now TSCC, Those are conciouse choices to piss off anyone remotly in sci-fi. The only vice i have against FIREFLY, is that FOX cancelled DARK ANGEL to put it on, but look at how FOX cancelled DARK ANGEL, they told the cast that theyed pick it up for a third season, and the day of the announcement, "Sorry, but we have to cancell you, but i hope we hope you'll watch our new show FIREFLY, it'll be good, we have big prospects for it." In the end FIREFLY got put in the pipe like DARK ANGEL, don't get me wrong, i love FIREFLY, but i loved DA just a smidggen more.

You're not alone in loving Dark Angel, there are some other folks on this board that loved it too. :) I believe Chrisisall will certainly enjoy talking with you about DA.

I think the networks buy new shows, cancel and renew old shows without much thought to anything besides money. They are a money making venture and they're always looking for the next new thing that will be a BIG hit. Like an X-Files,or a Dallas or a LOST. They all do it. :( I regret the end of Pushing Daisies. I regret the loss of Life. Both canceled by other networks besides Fox. Shows and their success are the luck of the draw and then playing the hand successfully. Like the rest of life, totally unpredictable. :)

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JAMERON4EVA

Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:51 AM

Yes FollowMal, but there is normaly some type warining, or premonision, not so with FOX. And before you mention TSCC, yes the pipeline proved true, but it was to close to call in my estimation, Dollhouse and TSCC were both almost cancelled, at lest there was some warning (pipeline) with TSCC. But look at how they cancelled Dark Angel and FIREFLY, no warning, no explanations, just a boot in the butt. And check out my DARK ANGEL post, where DA fans can gab, and gebnerally talk about the show, first two post are by me giving some info on the world, list of characters and who played them, and general over view of the two mian characters MAX and Logan, for all my DARK ANGEL bro's and sistas, KEEP THE DA DREAM ALIVE!!! And for all my Browncoat bro's and sistas, DEFEAT THE ALLIANCE, JOIN WITH SERENITY, AND HER CREW TO DO SO.

FOLLOWMAL

Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:54 AM

They're mercurial like that. :)
No telling what they're ever going to do.

Very cool about the DA thread. I am sure that Chrisisall will join in on that one.

http://www.kidsneedtoread.org/

JAMERON4EVA

Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:00 AM

How bout you, i'd like to see anyone (anything) there, and i'd like your thoughts and ideas on it, and please if you like it spread the word, i'd like to get the news about it out. And hey, maybe FOX only hires bipolar people, not that theres anything wrong with being bipolar, it just makes my feel tv shows aren't safe with FOX.

FOLLOWMAL

Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:04 AM

Well, I enjoyed DA very much, but it's been a long time since I watched it. :(
'Fraid I couldn't contribute much.
I'm sure ( more than sure! ) that you'll get some responses in the a.m.
It's midnight here...I turn into a pumpkin at 12:30...so I'm off to bed. :)

I'll try to comment in the thread tomorrow. :)

http://www.kidsneedtoread.org/

JAMERON4EVA

Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:11 AM

Hope you have shiny dreams man, but keep a watchfull eye out for ALLIANCA personel.

JAMERON4EVA

Friday, July 31, 2009 4:17 PM

Okay, now to add something else, TSCC WAS FREAKING AWESOME! I don't care if you think so or not, that's your opinion, not mine, now on to other threads.......

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ZEEK

Friday, July 31, 2009 5:48 PM

I agree that Fox is just joking when they say they're afraid of the emails they'll receive. Though I still think they thought of Firefly when they made the Dollhouse decision. Firefly has sold like crazy on DVD and that's why they thought of it. They were thinking about money and using Firefly as an example for why they should keep Dollhouse. They're hoping that they can sell tons of Dollhouse DVDs. The problem is I've bought 3 sets of Firefly DVDs and I don't plan on ever buying Dollhouse. So, now they execs are going to say "see we renewed that show like you wanted and it was a bust" and go back to their standard practice of canceling 70% of their shows each year. (yes that number is made up and probably wrong)

So, do you really think they are learning? Personally I wouldn't have blamed them even a tiny bit if they cancelled Dollhouse. I really don't think it has huge potential. It has decent potential. It could reach the middle of the pack if it goes well. That wouldn't be enough to get a renewal if I was making the decision. I don't think they've learned much. They're still trying to base decisions on anything other than the merits of the show in question.

FOLLOWMAL

Friday, July 31, 2009 6:02 PM

I think they think of DVD sales whenever they make decisions about shows. Despite being unafraid to receive emails from Joss Whedon fans, they'll court Joss Whedon fans to buy the DVD's of his shows. In fact they know from experience they can count on it.

I think the fact that Joss agreed to lower the cost of doing DollHouse had something to do with the renewal, DVR viewings had something to do with it too. They now count those, not as firmly as they count viewers, but it works to give them some idea of how many folks watch it later. We didn't have that when Firefly or Dark Angel was on. This helped DollHouse immensely.

DollHouse has all the potential that a show can have. Lots of story room to grow, a great team of writers and good actors. Lots of great guest stars this next season too.

I'm looking forward to it.

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Originally posted by Zeek:
They're still trying to base decisions on anything other than the merits of the show in question.

They always base decisions on how much money a show makes by how many viewers a show has therefore how much advertising they can sell around it. They are in it for profit, not merit.
If something they've gambled on hits big, gets accolades, receives awards and develops a wonderful group of fans, that's nice. But numero uno always is profit.

Just sayin'.

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