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Praying?!? Sorry pal, God's busy with other worlds for the next few centuries, can I take a message?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, July 10, 2009 17:49
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Friday, July 3, 2009 3:03 AM

Since I could dig up the entire fossil record we do have and you wouldn't be convinced, I'll try a different track. Why do you suppose the different archetypes have similarities?

Why are fish a chordate and have brains and a digestive track and opposite end mouth/anus layouts, same as all the other clades you mention? Why do we share bilateral symmetry with animals higher than a tunicate? Why do all animals manufacture similar proteins (often used for similar purposes)?

Why do dogs, cats, ungulates (hooved animals), primates, reptiles, and birds all have four major limbs, a head with eyes, lungs, hearts, blood, etc.?

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Friday, July 3, 2009 3:10 AM

its not that, but clearly God DIDNT initiate it that way, or we'd have more intermediate forms running around. instead, we have clearly defined catagories of animals, clear back to the Cambrian period. its not beyond Gods ability, but it didnt happen that way, because there is hardly a shred of evidence

primates have always been primates, just as the felidea have always been cats and so on. mammals didnt share a common ancestor, just as they didnt spawn, through some random mutation, from a reptile or amphibian. there arent any current missing links, and the fossil record is nearly deviod of what would be millions of variations to account for all the different life forms on planet earth. it seems like common sense to me..

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Friday, July 3, 2009 3:10 AM

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Originally posted by antimason:
according to your logic, there is no difference between birds or reptiles or amphibians.. yet clearly their is. its almost mind numbing


The mid-species mutation would be amazingly quick, in evolutionary terms; to expect extensive fossil records of each event is mind-numbingly simplistic.
How many early 20th Century transistors can you lay your hands on easily?
No my friend Anti, your logic is fallacious, and you dellusions are deep.
Go to bed, and have a good sleep.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, July 3, 2009 3:16 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Since I could dig up the entire fossil record we do have and you wouldn't be convinced, I'll try a different track. Why do you suppose the different archetypes have similarities?



is the insinuation a common ancestor? mostly because we share a common designer.. i know that will not be sufficient for you, but to be more frank then most evolutionary biologists, who knows?

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Why are fish a chordate and have brains and a digestive track and opposite end mouth/anus layouts, same as all the other clades you mention?


is that a common enough thread to presume this shared trait lead to the transformation of the first amphibian? isnt that to marginalize the complexity DNA?

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Why do all animals manufacture similar proteins (often used for similar purposes)?

Why do dogs, cats, ungulates (hooved animals), primates, reptiles, and birds all have four major limbs, a head with eyes, lungs, hearts, blood, etc.?



is it because theres a common ancestor, or a common designer? id argue the latter

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Friday, July 3, 2009 3:18 AM

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Originally posted by antimason:
the fossil record is nearly deviod of what would be millions of variations to account for all the different life forms on planet earth. it seems like common sense to me..

Uncommon senselessness is more like it.
Yo, dirt, volcanic activity, water, erosion, pressure... any of these factors enter into your equation of how millions of tiny bits of evidence should be preserved for your personal pleasure & enlightenment?

BTW, where are the bones of Jesus Christ to prove that he lived, genius?


The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, July 3, 2009 3:18 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
The mid-species mutation would be amazingly quick, in evolutionary terms; to expect extensive fossil records of each event is mind-numbingly simplistic.



punctuated equilibrium right? to presume a reptile became a bird overnight, now thats mind-numbingly simplistic.. and not very scientific either, given the lack of 'hard evidence'

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Friday, July 3, 2009 3:21 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
BTW, where are the bones of Jesus Christ to prove that he lived, genius?



actually we have eye witness testimony and historical accounts of Jesus. i could prove Jesus existed easier then you could prove a cat was ever a fish

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Friday, July 3, 2009 3:23 AM

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Originally posted by antimason:
to presume a reptile became a bird overnight,

Flock you.
For every thousand mutations, only one might be viable. You want every reptile born with an inverted pelvis to be set at your doorstep for examination? Then you'd better ask God.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, July 3, 2009 3:28 AM

You didn't answer really answer any of my questions. You claim an intelligent designer without presenting a theory that counters evolution on it's key points. We know you believe there's an intelligent designer. But evolutionists don't answer every question with "because there's evolution."

Why do you think there are similarities? In other words, why would an intelligent designer make those similarities? And how and why would the intelligent designer make the archetype lifeforms?

Evolution explains hows and whys. So explain your hows and whys. You don't have to have address EVERY point evolution makes or counter EVERY bit of evidence in evolution's favour, but for goodness sakes, if you're going to present this as a counter theory, give us something more than "because it is how it is and that's how the creator made it."

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Friday, July 3, 2009 3:31 AM

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Originally posted by antimason:

actually we have eye witness testimony and historical accounts of Jesus.


Like the eye witness accounts of the Flying Spaghetti Monster on record? Hmmm... most convincing.
Look, I think Jesus was a cool, progressive & socially Liberal guy, but calling him the son of an all-powerful God is like future generations calling Bruce Lee a Chinese martial elemental in human form.

Please, get over your righteous infallibility.


The laughing Chrisisall

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