Name your favourite Right & Left wing flicks here.

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IMNOTHERE

Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:44 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Where does a movie like Gattaca fall?

The Gattaca-style dystopia is more down to corporate globalism than traditional Left/Right politics: only a neo-fascist would defend that sort of eugenics, but if you can't stop multinationals offshoring their employee health insurance to Lichtenstein, then those insurers can sustain astronomical prices for the reduced amount of medical services they do use, pricing other insurers and public healthcare schemes out of the market...

CHRISISALL

Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:59 PM

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Originally posted by ImNotHere:

The Gattaca-style dystopia is more down to corporate globalism than traditional Left/Right politics

Well, the right seems to favour deregulation, and the left seems to favour nanny state ways, so maybe Gattaca is the worst of BOTH worlds.

The laughing Chrisisall

GRIPPER

Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:52 PM

Anyone mention "MInority Report"yet??The whole "pre-crime" investigative/enforcement arm sound slike astatist/control freak's wet dream-so althoug I am more than a little right wing(libertarian conservative type)I could see it as damning BOTH houses-think"hate crimes"/Napolitano's "potential terrorist"crap bouncing off of the governmental machinery empowered my nominal conservatives....We all know the road that good intentions paves,right???
Speaking of "Red Dawn"-who WAS the Spetnaz/desantnikiye type that was sent in to hunt down Patrick Swayze's character towards the end???Tall guy,pockmanrked;slightly Mongol type cheek bones???Use to see him in a variety of tough guy roles....

KPO

Monday, June 29, 2009 1:19 AM

It's interesting, overtly political themes in artistic expression generally come from the left, or the libertarian slant of things.

I enjoyed 'American Beauty', though part of that was cynical amusement at the intensely liberal worldview being recreated - a bit like a liberal man's wet dream... I also liked 'The Spy who Came in from the Cold', the novel by John le Carre (haven't seen the film), though I've despised some of his later stuff.

Heads should roll

CHRISISALL

Monday, June 29, 2009 2:03 AM

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Originally posted by kpo:
I also liked 'The Spy who Came in from the Cold', the novel by John le Carre (haven't seen the film)

The movie "The Constant Gardner" is awesome, if somewhat unsettling.

The laughing Chrisisall

KPO

Monday, June 29, 2009 2:44 AM

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The movie "The Constant Gardner" is awesome, if somewhat unsettling.

One of the things I didn't like... Basically I see it as viewing a dark and sad situation through as dark and damning a lens as possible. My own opinion but in general I think left-wing anger in art sometimes goes beyond righteous anger into something else, less reflective of reality/truth (what art should be) and more self indulgent.

A good example (if you will permit an example from music) I think is 'Cortez the killer' by Neil Young; actually a very good song - about the leader of the Spanish conquistadors and his conquering of the indigenous aztecs who are depicted thus:

"And the women all were beautiful
And the men stood straight and strong
They offered life in sacrifice
So that others could go on.

Hate was just a legend
And war was never known
The people worked together..."

Hmm. The actual historical reality of the aztecs and the fall of their civilisation is still quite tragic, but I'm afraid Neil Young here just takes righteous anger to ridiculous, self-indulgent levels.

Heads should roll

CHRISISALL

Monday, June 29, 2009 3:17 AM

You make a good point IMO.

The laughing Chrisisall

DEEPGIRL187

Monday, June 29, 2009 9:44 PM

Well this isn't a film exactly, but the book 1632 by Eric Flint has quite a few libertarian elements to it. While I don't agree with all of the libertarian doctrine, the book itself is really enjoyable, and has a killer finish.

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COZEN

Thursday, July 23, 2009 4:42 PM

[ whiny rant ]Huh. Triumph of the Will was completely ignored.

I wonder if that speaks to a willful ignorance, in terms of ignoring that which effects our shallow consumerist ids, for fear of finding out, um... that we have shallow ids. Or maybe some of us simply don't have the time to consider the implications of each and every post that's been replied to, eh?

It's worth a view. Here, I'll help: http://tinyurl.com/ljkvtd

vid length = 1:50:30 As mentioned above, no film/psychology/advertising student completes a curriculum without viewing this masterpiece.

[ /whiny rant ]

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FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:58 PM

Excellent choice, Deepgirl.

There's certain points of it which don't jibe with my philosophy neither, but it's a right good yarn.

If you liked that though, and from my impression of you, I highly suggest "With the Lightnings" by David Drake, available at the Baen Free Library.

I have the first three books of that, and found it an excellent tale, and in addition the characterisations and social dynamics are well represented, very realistic, and intriguing as well.

While I don't have so many movie suggestions offhand, there's two Anime series on the extreme liberal/anarchist end which are quite enjoyable.

The Irresponsible Captain Tylor.
Scrapped Princess.

The latter has some interesting explorations about perception, right and wrong, as well as beliefs and how they affect us.

-F

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