A MUST SEE! Global Warming Swindle!

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UPDATED: Friday, July 3, 2009 16:48
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CHRISISALL

Friday, June 26, 2009 2:18 AM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:

I have seen no hard evidence that global warming exists.

So, you're like, what? 20 years old?

The laughing Chrisisall

CANTTAKESKY

Friday, June 26, 2009 2:21 AM

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Originally posted by zzetta13:
I’ve always felt that the global warming issue was the excuse Big Petroleum companies were touting to the major governments in order to raise gas prices through the roof.

The big push in global warming legislation is to require "carbon sequestration." Dept of Energy scientists are getting huge amounts of money to research this. Carbon sequestration is capturing carbon dioxide waste and sending it anywhere other than the atmosphere. Surprisingly, Big Petroleum is extremely supportive of global warming legislation. On second thought though, it is not so surprising after all.

Carbon sequestration requires energy. More energy means more fuel consumption. If one liter of fuel produces X amount of carbon dioxide, but 2 liters of fuel captures that 2X amount and reroutes it into the ground (for example), who makes out in all this? Why, the fuel suppliers of course.

It is a swindle after all.

BYTEMITE

Friday, June 26, 2009 2:29 AM

@ CrevanReaver: I have never ever heard anything to indicate that studies are concluding that solar cycles are causing the current period of warming. Technically, going by the geological record and the Milankovitch cycle, for the last ten thousand years, we should have been going further into an ice age.

Also, I'd recommend looking at the chemistry of burning carbon fuels. I can guarantee to you that CO2 is being produced, and it's being produced by human activities.

As for humans being unable to effect the atmosphere... We're talking changes in concentrations on the order of parts per million, and yet, considering the volume the chemicals are going into, that's a lot of tonnage being belched out into the air. And I can tell you it's not nothing.

Remember the Ozone Hole? CFCs are far from the largest volume of chemicals we were putting into the atmosphere back then. Did they have an effect? Well, there's blind Rabbits on the Cape of Good Hope because of UV from the Antarctic Ozone hole.

But in the 1980s, aerosol industries complied with recommendations of scientists, and switched to HCFCs to pressurize their fluids. On account of the hydrogen in the chemical formula allowing the chemical to dissolve in water droplets, HCFCs have a lower residence time in the atmosphere (a few months compared to 5 years). This means that CFCs no longer are reaching Antarctica, and are no longer contributing to a breakdown of Ozone in the winter months. We've started to see the concentration numbers in the Ozone hole begin to climb back up. So not ONLY were people able to cause a problem on the atmospheric level, we were able to mediate it.

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 26, 2009 2:58 AM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:

It is a swindle after all.

Swindles are built on realities, CTS.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 26, 2009 3:04 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
there's blind Rabbits on the Cape of Good Hope because of UV from the Antarctic Ozone hole.

They were paid to act blind by special interests, I conjure.

The laughing Chrisisall

CANTTAKESKY

Friday, June 26, 2009 3:55 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Swindles are built on realities, CTS.

Swindles are built on magic tricks, cons, illusions of reality.

All lies have some truth in them. Swindles are built on conclusions that aren't true, based loosely on a few facts that are true.

CANTTAKESKY

Friday, June 26, 2009 4:49 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
My point is: it's REAL, and we can't deny it IS happening.

What is your basis for believing it is real? Because a lot of experts say so? What if in a few generations, the popular trend reverses and experts then say it isn't real. Would you then believe it isn't real?

I'm not targeting you specifically. I am just saying most people believe it by reason of authority, because they believe a lot of people more knowledgeable than they are believe it. Most people have never looked at the evidence themselves--just the conclusions of authorities they trust. That is what GW boils down to. Trust. Faith. It's become a religion, with climate scientists as priests. Computer modeling is the new oracle, predicting the tides of good and evil, reinforced by signs from the Gods: anything from melting ice to increase diseases. Skeptics are seen as heretics, condemning the world to a special, very warm hell.

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Pollution should be addressed just for it's toxic effect on us, if for no other reason.

I am all for addressing pollution. But that shouldn't lend support for global warming, let alone manmade warming.

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U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateRepor
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Freeman Dyson Takes On
The Climate Establishment

http://www.e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2151

BYTEMITE

Friday, June 26, 2009 6:51 AM

Actually, I'd say I've probably looked at this issue a lot. And I agree with the experts.

Even if you take out the computer models and all the uncertainty about just how the climate is changing... And if you take out all the smokescreen from the corporate interests, scientists have built up a pretty good case. In fact, I've known one of the scientists who was studying acidification of the ocean, and he is not the kind of guy to just be trying to put forward an agenda, whether it's on behalf of an increasingly controlling government or energy companies wanting to manipulate the market.

Do I think Global Warming is being sensationalized? Well, yes, probably about as much as the Ozone Holes were. But that didn't mean they weren't a problem.

CITIZEN

Friday, June 26, 2009 7:21 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
@ CrevanReaver: I have never ever heard anything to indicate that studies are concluding that solar cycles are causing the current period of warming.

In fact the Sun is undergoing a period of low activity.

CUDA77

Friday, June 26, 2009 9:26 AM

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Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
Now that the socialists are in power in America more people need to see this documentary.

The socialists are in power? Since when? I know I certainly voted for Brian Moore but I'm pretty sure he got flattened in the election. All I see in power is a bunch of hypocrites and liars who claim to have a liberal agenda but once they get voted in show their true conservative colors.

That's the one thing I can at least respect about the Republicans. They do say exactly what they intend on doing. They don't lie like the Democrats. As far as I'm concerned, Democrats in America are Republicans who say nicer things than their opponents to get elected. And that anyone can think that Obama & Co. are socialists is so damn laughable. The only, and I mean ONLY candidate that had even remote socialist leanings was Dennis Kucinich (my personal pick in the primaries) but he sadly dropped out.

Please, take as much time researching socialism and Obama's platform as you seem to have done on global warming and you will come to the realization that Obama is far more like GWB than Karl Marx. Sorry for getting off on the tangent.

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