Heart of Gold, Where is it?
POSTED BY: ncbrowncoat
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 03:17
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Orig sequence is WS, HoG, OiS, Trash, Message.
Resequence is WS, Trash, Message, Hog, Ois.
Serenity BDM took place in Blue Sun and Kalidasa Systems, and just outside Georgia system, according to Map of the Verse.
There are 5 systems in the verse: Core (White Sun), Georgia, Red, kalidasa, Blue.
Message ended at St Ablans, but started 2 days away, which is halfway across the verse (takes 5.5 days to cross the verse).
War Stories was Ezra, center of Georgia System (opposite from St Albans.)
No narrowing down data was given in HoG.
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Originally posted by RiverDancer:
Knowing layouts and how fast the ship can go is fantastic stuff, but I still think without more detail of the actual timeline, not just where the episode falls but how long it's been since (in my mind) the job in Trash... which itself must have had a bit of time before it we didn't see, since there was the wobble-headed doll job and then all the small dirty slum jobs Inara was complaining about up til whatever the job with Monty was... I got off track, but anyway, without more clear info the Heart of Gold Brothel could be just about anywhere. I'd bet it's rim, and probably bet it's a moon, but aside from that I wouldn't bet anything. You could easily be right, maybe it's close to St. Albans. Or maybe it's close to the floating space bazaar with the post office we see at the beginning of the Message. Maybe it's near the corner of No and Where. I think you could easily pick any of those things, or someplace farther off, and debatably have some backup in the canon. It's kind of cool, like I said, to have the freedom, but I understand the frustration of the people who ponder and debate and agonize for days about the location of the Training House in the movie, or Kaylee's home planet, or the Heart of Gold. I love it, really, because it shows fic writers are thinking about their work and it's likely to be an enjoyable read, no matter what location they end up settling on.
Your Q about Trash time. It was said Trash is 3 weeks since thier last job. This is after OiS (no job), which was after HoG (no job, really), which was after War Stories (no job, still selling off Ariel meds), which was after Ariel (Hospitol job). Perhaps the woobly dolls were after Ariel.
Have you not read the timelines? Which part of listing the periods of time for the episodes do you feel is not included?
Obviously, with many people assuming each episode would generally consume one week, and only needed 5.5 days to completely cross the verse, it is difficult to specify a setting without further data from script or visuals, background, etc.
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Make stuff up and if Joss has a problem with it, he'll let you know.
Seriously. While detailed, the Firefly 'verse is considerably undefined, and subject to interpretation, as you've seen above. Everyone is a little right, and a little wrong, and that's okay. It's sci-fi/fantasy/western...it can be whatever you want. Do what feels right and let your story be told.
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Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:
On what moon/planet is the Heart of Gold located? I can't remember if it's named in the episode.
In the event the OP is still looking for input, and/or to continue the discussion....
In the originally scripted, filmed, and produced sequence, HoG is after War Stories and before Objects in Space. War Stories ends after leaving Niska's Skyplex orbiting Ezra, the nearest orbit to Georgia Sun. Objects in Space starts off heading to New Melbourne, and they are 4 days away. New Melbourne is the 2nd orbiter of Red Sun, which is on the opposite side of the verse from Georgia Sun - about 70 hours travel time at Serenity's maximum accel/decel rate.
Because Trash specifies that they have had no jobs in 3 weeks, and Serenity can travel the entire breadth of the verse in 5.5 days, we can speculate that they are at a more lackadaisical pacing, not burning gobs of fuel at every opportunity, and travelling slower.
To be clear, from the end of WS to the start of OiS, Serenity could have crossed the verse several times in that time span.
But if they were in no hurry to leave Georgia System after WS, they may still be in Georgia System at the start of OiS, and we could speculate they were puttering around Georgia when HoG occurred.
It is clear Serenity was NOT in Red Sun System at the beginning of OiS. But that does not mean they were not in Red Sun a week or so prior, during HoG.
In the resequenced version of events, HoG happens after Message and again before OiS. Message ends on St Ablans, which is also in the Red Sun system. Because they are not in Red Sun at the start of OiS, it seems clear that this would mean they went to another system. Georgia is on the opposite side of the verse, Blue Sun is farther away than Georgia, but Kalidasa is close. Even though OiS starts outside Red Sun system, this does not mean they had already left Red Sun before HoG occurred.
In either case, Inara complained about lack of work, and it seems clear Serenity did not visit the Core during this time period.
I have not provided you with a clearcut answer, because there is none. Perhaps the discussion of possibilities has helped you fit into the events as you conjure them. Sorry for the delay in answer.
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Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:
Thanks for the ideas about the location of the Heart of Gold. I had an idea about how to finally finish a fic that's been on my laptop for almost 9 months.
I was exercising yesterday afternoon in the 90 degree heat and I thought of the Heart of Gold. Must have been inspired by the heat.
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