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Mean Girls In Shindig

POSTED BY: Jmartine3592
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 14:17
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Friday, June 11, 2004 4:59 AM

Okay, when Kaylee is at the ball with Mal on Persephone and she approaches the mean girls, the conversation is like this:

MEAN GIRL: This party is not as good as last year.

KAYLEE: What'd they have?

MEAN GIRL: Standards....

Does this mean they had regular people and she was trying to insult Kaylee? Thanks.

Jayne - "It smells like crotch..."
Kaylee - "Jayne!"

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Friday, June 11, 2004 5:26 AM

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Originally posted by Jmartine3592:
Okay, when Kaylee is at the ball with Mal on Persephone and she approaches the mean girls, the conversation is like this:

MEAN GIRL: This party is not as good as last year.

KAYLEE: What'd they have?

MEAN GIRL: Standards....

Does this mean they had regular people and she was trying to insult Kaylee? Thanks.

Jayne - "It smells like crotch..."
Kaylee - "Jayne!"



I believe her implication was that last year the party guests had met society standards, and Kaylee wouldn't have made the cut. IOW, Kaylee wasn't good enough to be there. And yes, she was being deliberately insulting.

Rotten girl, being me to our Kaylee

Grace

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Saturday, June 12, 2004 1:26 AM

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Originally posted by GraceOM:


Rotten girl, being mean to our Kaylee




Well, you know what they say about payback...

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Saturday, June 12, 2004 1:38 AM

Either way, they were the most hideous bitches, but I think she was talking about the party itself.

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

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Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:57 AM

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Originally posted by WildHeavenFarm:
Either way, they were the most hideous bitches, but I think she was talking about the party itself.

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.



Ah, but then possible sugar daddy ( I'm kidding) insulted her mightily

Jayne: "Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I beat you with till you understand who's in command."

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Saturday, June 19, 2004 5:42 AM

Well, she did have another insult, directed at Kaylee herself, which she started "You should see your girl," meaning she either wasn't aware that Kaylee was a commoner, or rubbing it in her face...

"Bye now. Have good sex!"

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Saturday, June 19, 2004 7:33 AM

She was aware that Kaylee was a commoner and had bought her dress, because Kaylee had just said that when she saw the ruffles, she just couldn't resist, which strongly suggests that she picked it out and bought it, rather than having it designed.

Book: I'd forgotten - you're moonlighting as a criminal mastermind now.
Simon: No, but I'm thinking about growing a big black mustache. I'm a traditionalist.

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Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:36 PM

I don't think that Alliance society is as equal as our own. I think that those girls noticed that Kaylee was not from the elite and were just being mean to her by trying to make her feel inferior and by trying to make her feel like she doesn't belong at the party. The old man who rescued her may have a more egalitarian view of people from different classes and not like the lead girl who insulted Kaylee.

I was watching Out of Gas and Tim Minear mentioned that Kaylee was kind of a girl from the docks who likes engines, so I think Kaylee is from a blue collar background.

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Friday, July 23, 2004 12:12 AM

I liked the old guy, he *very* strongly reminded me of Clark Gable/Rhett Butler... sauve, charming, and completely capable of politely ripping a strip off you.

I was just about laffing myself to death when she had all the old navy codgers hanging on her like that..

She's young, she's cute.. she's an ENGINEER?
booyah!

My girl says the 'pretending to be helpful' kind of meannest the society girls were pulling on Kaylee is an especially mean trick common to upperclass sorority girls, it allows them to slide sideways out of accusations of nastiness, and be even more condescending than directly insulting people would be.

Now me, I figure if the old gentleman didn't intervene, and they pushed, someone was gonna get their head dunked in a punch bowl... Kaylee may be the sweetest lil thing, but insulting a womans dress and personhood at their very first gala is sure suicide not matter how sweet they are.

-frem
diefuxdie

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Friday, July 23, 2004 2:34 AM

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Originally posted by BruisersMom:


I was watching Out of Gas and Tim Minear mentioned that Kaylee was kind of a girl from the docks who likes engines, so I think Kaylee is from a blue collar background.



Yeah, but in the ep itself, Kaylee says she's from a farm, I believe. No?

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