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The Other Firefly Movie?

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Wednesday, June 2, 2004 5:58 PM

from scifi.com

Shusett Rebels With 2176

Ron Shusett, co-creator of Alien, and producer Daniel Alter are teaming up to produce 2176, an SF space opera movie offering a retelling of the Revolutionary War, written by Thunder Levin and George Saunders, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The story revolves around 13 planetary colonies in the future that rebel against an oppressive Earth, the trade paper reported.

Alter, through his Alter Ego Entertainment management and production company, has also optioned rights to the Image Comics series Small Gods, which it aims to develop as a television series about people with psychic abilities, the trade paper reported. The company is also developing Spooks, an original pitch by Alter and Ryan Schifrin, which revolves around a government agency that protects mankind from supernatural threats, including vampires, werewolves, witchcraft, ghosts and zombies.


So, first they want to take the history of firefly and make it into a movie. then they want to make a series about river. then they figured out the next buffy spinoff: the Initiative. I wonder if marc blucas is still available. grr



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Wednesday, June 2, 2004 6:20 PM

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Originally posted by illbeinmybunk:
The company is also developing Spooks, an original pitch by Alter and Ryan Schifrin, which revolves around a government agency that protects mankind from supernatural threats, including vampires, werewolves, witchcraft, ghosts and zombies.



Not just the Initiative.

Special Unit 2
Roswell Conspiracies
Hellsing (the animé, not the Hugh Jackman movie)

The list goes on.

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Thursday, June 3, 2004 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by illbeinmybunk:
from scifi.com

Shusett Rebels With 2176

Ron Shusett, co-creator of Alien, and producer Daniel Alter are teaming up to produce 2176, an SF space opera movie offering a retelling of the Revolutionary War, written by Thunder Levin and George Saunders, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The story revolves around 13 planetary colonies in the future that rebel against an oppressive Earth, the trade paper reported.



Wow. That sounds oddly familiar. Colony worlds declaring independence from an oppressive central government, resulting in a war.

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Alter, through his Alter Ego Entertainment management and production company, has also optioned rights to the Image Comics series Small Gods, which it aims to develop as a television series about people with psychic abilities, the trade paper reported. The company is also developing Spooks, an original pitch by Alter and Ryan Schifrin, which revolves around a government agency that protects mankind from supernatural threats, including vampires, werewolves, witchcraft, ghosts and zombies.



Been done. Several times over. Still, Spooks might be worth checking out if it ever actually makes it to TV.

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So, first they want to take the history of firefly and make it into a movie. then they want to make a series about river. then they figured out the next buffy spinoff: the Initiative. I wonder if marc blucas is still available. grr



Not very original concepts I agree, but then again, what is? Nearly every show you can think of is based on some theme or another that has been done before. Not all mind you, but a good deal of them.

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Thursday, June 3, 2004 12:14 PM

The supernatural thing reminds me a little of Ultraviolet. I wish HBO would pick that up and run with it, there just wasn't enough of it. Sorta like something else we all know and love.

The revolting against Earth of different colonies has been done quite a bit in Sci-fi, but mostly in books. So it may be interesting, all depends on how they work things through.



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Thursday, June 3, 2004 8:47 PM

I'm holding out hope for the quality of all of them. Maybe the TV series could be a second sort of non-pointless version of the X-Files...

And I'd definitely be willing to go see the 2176 film, since I love historical, war, and sci-fi films: sounds like it has all the things that I like in one package. Wonder if there will be any neat little pop culture references in it to the Alien series?

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Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:35 PM

I'm a little confused. Is this based off of Firefly (the war itself), or another idea that's just (seems like) a rip-off?

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Originally posted by illbeinmybunk:
... then they figured out the next buffy spinoff: the Initiative. I wonder if marc blucas is still available. grr


Where did you hear this? I'm interested to know.

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Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:40 PM

Wait a minute... there's actually a guy out there named THUNDER?!

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Friday, June 11, 2004 2:35 AM

Not that this makes much difference, but I read that Firefly parallels the American Civil War, whereas this other movie, "2176," parallels the American Revolutionary War. For example, the Battle of Serenity Valley is supposed to parallel the Battle of Gettysburg.

Regardless, what i feel is the biggest draw of Firefly is its late 19th Century, Old American West atmosphere. A space opera loosely based on the American Revolutionary War may not have this same ambiance.

BTW, I think I'm one of the five people in North America who liked Special Unit 2. I'm not completely averse to a new series like it.

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Friday, June 11, 2004 2:53 AM

Possibly a little bit of "The Legacy" (supernatural agency) and "Battlestar Galactica" (13 colonies) thrown in to their idea mix too. Not necessarily a bad thing depending on what they do with it, I just thought it worth mentioning for some odd reason.

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Friday, June 11, 2004 3:23 AM

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Originally posted by WalterPipp:
Not that this makes much difference, but I read that Firefly parallels the American Civil War, whereas this other movie, "2176," parallels the American Revolutionary War. For example, the Battle of Serenity Valley is supposed to parallel the Battle of Gettysburg.

Regardless, what i feel is the biggest draw of Firefly is its late 19th Century, Old American West atmosphere. A space opera loosely based on the American Revolutionary War may not have this same ambiance.

BTW, I think I'm one of the five people in North America who liked Special Unit 2. I'm not completely averse to a new series like it.




Actually, I'd say that the Battle of Serenity Valley parallels the Battle of Petersburg fought at the closing months of the American Civil War. Yeah, the history textbooks in school will say the turning point was at Gettysburg but that is still debated by scholars of the Civil War today.

But I personally think that Serenity Valley seems more like a Petersburg than Gettysburg. Both had trench warfare. From what I could tell Serenity Valley was in between something the Alliance wanted to get to. Petersburg was in the way of the North getting to Richmond. Serenity Valley seemed to have lasted for months. Petersburg lasted for months of siege like warfare. So I see more similiarities in Petersburg rather than Gettysburg.

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