Question that's bugging me.

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STINKINGROSE

Sunday, June 7, 2009 1:22 AM

She was on ice, not cooking. Hopefully 500 years in the future they've solved the problem of freezer burn.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Jayne had given Dobson a little help getting loose (left a little sharp object lying within reach..) just to play both ends. He did later say to Mal that the money wasn't good enough. Enough money to buy your own ship is probably not to be sneezed at, no? So Jayne may have a concience, twisted though it might be logically.

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PEACEKEEPER

Sunday, June 7, 2009 2:15 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
How about this question..........

In the BDM, before they pass through Reaver space there are some background sounds and then you hear "Cut them down" shouted as a loud whisper. What is that?

If I remember rightly the "cut them down" line wasn't in that scene. I thought it was what woke River up when she was asleep on the walkway???

SHINYVERA2517

Sunday, June 7, 2009 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by stinkingrose:
She was on ice, not cooking. Hopefully 500 years in the future they've solved the problem of freezer burn.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Jayne had given Dobson a little help getting loose (left a little sharp object lying within reach..) just to play both ends. He did later say to Mal that the money wasn't good enough. Enough money to buy your own ship is probably not to be sneezed at, no? So Jayne may have a concience, twisted though it might be logically.

Lol, I know she was on ice, I just meant that she wasn't in the box as long as she 'should' have been according to Simon.

That was what made me wonder about the scene and what actually went on and why I'm torn between he did and he didn't.
- If Jayne didn't give him something sharp (or leave it within reach) then where'd he get it.
- The money had to have been pretty good if it was going to be enough to buy his own ship.
- He asks if helping would mean turning on the Captain. When Dobson says 'yes', Jayne doesn't give much of a reaction, except a very faint half smile (not even half, quarter smile) as the scene cuts to Mal and Wash. ......So what does he actually think of betraying the Cpt.?? Because he does seem to have a sense of loyalty to Mal, twisted though it may be, because he does generally follow his orders.
..........I guess now I'm thinking that, as you said, maybe he was playing both sides. If it works I get the money, if it doesn't work then no harm done.
Darn. Jayne's my favorite and I didn't want to think badly about him.....but then again, that's what makes him an interesting character isn't it? He'll do whatever for money, but we know he's sending the money to his momma so he's not all bad....

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SHINYVERA2517

Sunday, June 7, 2009 11:07 PM

thanks!!
"Doesn't do us any good... "
was the missing part :)

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"He was mostly brave.....MOSTLY??!?!...he was brave..."

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Monday, June 8, 2009 2:18 AM

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Originally posted by stinkingrose:
She was on ice, not cooking. Hopefully 500 years in the future they've solved the problem of freezer burn.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Jayne had given Dobson a little help getting loose (left a little sharp object lying within reach..) just to play both ends. He did later say to Mal that the money wasn't good enough. Enough money to buy your own ship is probably not to be sneezed at, no? So Jayne may have a concience, twisted though it might be logically.

Penguin: There's a new movie out "Morris: A Life With Bells On." It just premiered in Seattle. There is a line in it about Iowa. I thought of you!

You thought of how sad it is that he continues to believe in the myth that is Iowa?

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Monday, June 8, 2009 2:30 AM

dratted double posty goodness

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, June 8, 2009 6:48 AM

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Originally posted by ShinyVera2517:
Now I have a question.....3 of 'em actually. 2 are things that have been bugging me, and the other may be what amounts to a stupid question (they're all regarding the pilot ep):

1st: about 12 min and 20 seconds in, after they've opened the crate and have decided to move along before they run into more Alliance; in the background you hear Jayne and Kaylee talking and I can make out everything but one of Jayne's lines. I'm wondering if anyone can help me out on this....
Jayne- "What the hell they doin' out this far anyhow" Kaylee- "Shinin' the light of civilization" Jayne- " ????? " Kaylee- "Well we're uncivilized." Jayne- "Speak for yourself".... Anyone ever been able to catch what's being said in the "????" portion?

2nd: O.K., maybe I'm naive but I have to ask this anyway. When Jayne is 'interrogating' Dobson, he tells Jayne that if Jayne helps him get River back, he'll get money enough to buy his own ship. Later Jayne tells Mal that he didn't have anything to do with Dobson getting out....am I the only one who believes that?? (this is getting long and I don't know if anyone'll respond to this anyway so I wont put down my arguments about it unless someone responds to this....'cause why argue if no one's gonna argue back).

3rd: (here's what might be a stupid question...no,the one above wasn't the stupid question) When Mal opens the crate and finds River, Simon says "....she's not supposed to wake up for another week. The shock..." Anyone think that she'd have been a liiiiittle less messed up in the brain pan if she'd been alowed to 'cook' for another week?

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"He was mostly brave.....MOSTLY??!?!...he was brave..."

I've never decided about Jayne/Dobson, always seemed inconclusive either way, like it would be dealt with later.
I have always thought that Mal was part of the cause of River being extra messed up. After so much psych trauma and training, to be wrenched from assuredly dream state (read: nightmares with scary teachers) to full awake, without properly medicated transition, is certainly a good way to make even a normal person fairly psychotic for a while.
Mal had that coming when he screwed with the cryo box. Just like he had a Primary Buffer Panel failure coming when he ignored Kaylee's warnings for 6 months. And sending Simon away just before needing him to patch up Book. Plus a few other choice Mal snafus.

PATCHIST

Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:48 PM

I like to think Jayne gave Dobson the blade so he'd have another round of ass-whooping since he didnt actually had a chance the first time.

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:49 PM

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Originally posted by Patchist:
I like to think Jayne gave Dobson the blade so he'd have another round of ass-whooping since he didnt actually had a chance the first time.

Now THAT'S an intriguing motivation. I like it.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, August 17, 2009 8:48 AM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:
Originally posted by Patchist:
I like to think Jayne gave Dobson the blade so he'd have another round of ass-whooping since he didnt actually had a chance the first time.

Now THAT'S an intriguing motivation. I like it.

Then Jyane could save the day, along with enjoying some fighting, instead of Zoe blocking him again. That's Zoe - the fight-blocker.

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